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General DiscussionTips on escaping 2,5 - 3k trench tier for mid/safe lane player?

Tips on escaping 2,5 - 3k trench tier for mid/safe lane player? in General Discussion
Parabellum

    Heyo boys, I am trying to escape the the worst of the worst tiers in dota, the 3 k dang turf place. I am little crusty, yet seeing my scores and performance in last matches Ive been doing pretty well, yet loosing.
    So I am looking for some advices from some of you pros on what to focus on, my guess is get my farming better and as fast as it once was, but thats it rly.

    rrupi

      keep ur team mates warm . play on team as much as possible. and play good as a core.

      Parabellum

        Thaanks that pretty insightful

        TheRedemptionArc

          learn offlane. U can carry the team through there and tilt less, probably.

          Parabellum

            I dont get tilted

            Willow's Alt Acc

              Yo brother you need to learn to play the game properly
              For a crusader there is a long way to go to become really good xd

              kowareta

                I am trying to escape the the worst of the worst tiers in dota, the 3 k dang turf place.


                SIAO | Suicide Is An Option

                kädili somsa

                  to escape 2.5-3k you have to reach there first of all

                  Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24)

                    "I like to use my time better"

                    LUL

                    fun acc

                      i think u are wasting ur time bro

                      dota

                        stop wasting your time

                        Parabellum

                          I see I titled some weaboos, anyway question is still opened for all mentaly retarded and not so much people to offer their insight

                          Raw Honey

                            So do you want advice for escaping 2.5-3k trench OR for escaping the 2k trench you are actually in?

                            There is a massive difference in skill level from 2k to 3k. As a low 3k player there was about three times over the past year I did stupid shit and dropped to 2k. I literally felt like I was smurfing and immediately went on massive win streaks until I approached 3k again.

                            In 2k you can just spam a hero, win lane consistently, ignore your team and focus on what your hero is good at (farming, pushing, killing). Then around the 25 minute mark just rally your team to group with you and end it.

                            In 3k people get a little smarter. The main difference is you can no longer ignore your team and just have a really good game and solo carry. Players are smart enough to work together and shut down any one hero that snowballs too hard. For this reason it is the first bracket where I've started seeing smurf winrates drop off (usually 60-80% rather than 80-100%). If you are a mid player in 3k I would stop trying to carry the game and shift your focus to shutting down the enemy pos 1 and creating space for your pos 1.

                            Parabellum

                              The one I am in obviously I was only guessing the actual MMR

                              Kabir Singh's Booster

                                Pick Alchemist and then go hit the jungle creeps, bonus points if u can last hit and stack B)

                                kowareta

                                  the more u talk, the less sense u make
                                  if u have a charismatic face, atleast shut the fuck up and maybe someone respects u

                                  Parabellum

                                    Pretty weidb tbh, it should be pretty simple to get more mmr and In my games I often went big farm big kills and still lost, ill give it one more try if the strategy of getting rly fat as a carry doesnt work I am oficially cursed and valve is sabotaging my game and and and ill find something else to do heh

                                    Parabellum

                                      Also how the hell do these autists get this triggered is beyond me

                                      Kabir Singh's Booster

                                        ,ore then half your games are negative kda, 300-500 GPM, 5+ deaths, even in won games. It doesn't matter u got some frags u are dying all the time and feeding enemy advantage, I see your 20/8 Jugg game u literally have 0 building damage in a hour long game what the fuck even is that.

                                        kowareta

                                          AMWS | A Man With Strategy

                                          Cralo

                                            @=) There's no such thing as negative KDA. I think what you meant is <1 KDA. But other than that, exactly what you said.

                                            Parabellum

                                              Better to not pay that guy any attention my fellow wise guys, here in our institute we call guys like that waste of time and oxygen

                                              Parabellum

                                                Also Kowareta I have a suprise for you, I do actually know Tokyo Ghoul, what a great anime!
                                                It does make me wonder however, if perhaps you have also been mentaly abused by your parents like the main character in that great anime (for being too gay or whatever) and have now turned to the dark side of ghoulism by spamming people online with posts that are on the same level of inteligence as russian spam bots?
                                                Please, do get back to me this time with an answer, in case of it being too dumb my 6 year old son has promised to provide me with a translation

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                                                kowareta

                                                  MATB | Me And The Boys

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                                                  kowareta

                                                    DPAT | Dont Pay Any Attention

                                                    Parabellum

                                                      Aw what a shame, was really hoping for something my son could translate but even he cant understand it.
                                                      I do hope we are on good terms Kowareta and I sincerely wish you a lot of fun in the sperg lands

                                                      SLQ

                                                        Are retards done using gay as an insult?

                                                        Also hit buildings ffs

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                                                        kowareta

                                                          IARAIP | Im A Retard And Im Proud

                                                          Parabellum

                                                            Oh man I love the kind of people who show up here.
                                                            But please dont be shy, we can still talk about the topic here, maybe we can all learn something new, all advices are oh so welcomed

                                                            Johnny Silvercock

                                                              Do everything for your team

                                                              NabbyRages

                                                                Just need to let everyone know kowareta is actually divine trash he just disabled dotabuff thinking nobody will expose him as a fake immortal. So if anyone thinks "wow this guy is such a retard how is he immortal" well hes not.

                                                                kowareta

                                                                  the guy above got centaur stunned into death as a last pick ta knowing enemy picked sf
                                                                  :axe_laugh: :axe_laugh: :axe_laugh:
                                                                  :axe_laugh: :axe_laugh: :axe_laugh:
                                                                  :axe_laugh: :axe_laugh: :axe_laugh:

                                                                  its ok buddy, u just lost a game after 20 years spending time in it like literal animal
                                                                  AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

                                                                  Cralo

                                                                    @OP

                                                                    Your KDA is a bit low for a core player, considering your top heroes are mostly POS 1 or 2 heroes. 3.11KDA on an AM tells me you are dying more than necessary. You should pay more attention to your positioning, and the timing in which you engaged in fights.

                                                                    Parabellum

                                                                      Mmmm spicy dotabuff drama

                                                                      Parabellum

                                                                        Ye thats a good advice Cralo, Ive noticed that myself that I dont always take the best fights

                                                                        Raw Honey

                                                                          If you are playing well but consistently losing then there is a reason.

                                                                          Stop judging your gameplay performance by K/D. There are many roles, heroes, games that kills simply do not matter. My best hero is with LD an I have countless games where I stomp but go 0-1 because all I do is take towers. You could be 20-0 playing a support hero mid but you'll still lose to the 0-5 PA once he gets BKB and Deso. K/D means about at much as GPM/XPM. It is an indicator of game performance but not the deciding factor.

                                                                          If you feel like you are stomping enemy players but not winning the game ask yourself where you are falling short. Does the enemy eventually just out carry you (even tho you have more kills by the 30-40 minute mark they are automatically stronger)? Does the enemy out push you and control the map (even tho you have more kills by the 20 minute mark you have no tier 2s)? If this is the case you need to focus less about kills and more about what you do when the enemy is dead.

                                                                          Dirty FeeDeR

                                                                            @Kowareta KYSWS | K i l l Y o u r S e l f W a s t e d S p e r m

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                                                                            kowareta

                                                                              WSAP | Wasted Sperm And Proud

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                                                                              Tanatos

                                                                                Why are you being so toxic towards Kowareta, I can't understand??? He is from SEA, not a human, be kind to him PLEASE!

                                                                                dota

                                                                                  NlGGER | National and International Good Games Electronic Reviews

                                                                                  Willow's Alt Acc

                                                                                    LUL trust me just get good and learn the fundamentals.
                                                                                    Spamming one (or a few) will help you to do so, like me keep spamming Willow mid xd

                                                                                    Malcolm X

                                                                                      lol , you gotta love Kowareta , the guy is a legend , i come here only to read comment and laugh :D

                                                                                      Malcolm X

                                                                                        lol , you gotta love Kowareta , the guy is a legend , i come here only to read comment and laugh :D

                                                                                        Parabellum

                                                                                          Well atleast Ive learned that dotabuff isnt any different from other social media spergfests on the internet

                                                                                          ETd

                                                                                            When you make threads like this, you're bound to get trolled. You should know that considering you've been on the forums for more than 3 years.

                                                                                            Player 153433446

                                                                                              fuck the team, play carry and farm fast
                                                                                              you can get to immortal by playing afk carry