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General Discussioncookie,what is your id that got 160 winstreak at 2k or something?

cookie,what is your id that got 160 winstreak at 2k or something? in General Discussion
Feachairu

    if i'm not mistaken,or is it someone's id

    thanks

    Kotato

      I know only two, but they did not reach 163 winstreak that you mentioned

      https://www.dotabuff.com/players/280068636
      https://www.dotabuff.com/players/242852551

      Feachairu

        i see,thanks alot

        Coconut

          When will you people realize that even though the guy is good he is just doing false advertising?

          Yeah, there was a thread here where he bragged so much and I argued with him on another account. He kept insisting he could win 95%+ games and posted some screenshots(where the only thing which was 95% was the amount of party ranked) as proof.

          Just like these accounts, proves nothing, since MOST OF THE GAMES ARE PARTY RANKED. You can't get a huge winstreak by playing solo ranked, no matter how good you are. SOLO is different than PARTY. Sure you can win most of the games, but not 95% of them, much less 160 in a row... you can't even win 60.

          There are some variables you cannot control. Your primary hero gets banned, you get ruiners (destroying items), leavers, you get matched up vs other smurfs who will take advantage of your team's lesser skill and also get fat just like you... and MOST IMPORTANTLY - you will lose a roll and you won't get the lane you need to dominate the game(or if you insist you will get stuff like double mid and tiny tossers which further increases the chances of ruining). Stuff like that happens much less in party ranked as there aren't 4 other idiots you have to deal with.

          P.S. I'm not sure whether you can overcome all of this below say 2000 mmr(as I have never played 0-2000mmr), but you surely cannot overcome it once you get near 3k range.

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          invis?

            ^lol you are so wrong kiddo

            睡眠-

              if you are truly an otherwordly player in 3k, one can easily take over the game before even 10 minutes from the mid lane

              Cookie

                i never got a 160 winstreak, the highest i had was 81 from 2k to 4k, don't have the acc though as that was back in the OLD alchemist era where i'd just get 6 slotted at 20-25 mintues and run down midlane. the 2nd highest acc was 60 something, i think story time posted it.

                Cookie

                  @coconut, that's not true at all, those party matches were 2 man or 3 man at best, i avoid 5 mans because they're harder to control than solo matches, there were also lots of solo matches in between those party games as you can see. The acc i got 81 winstreak on was pure solo.

                  excluding someone intentionally feeding couriers down the midlane, i could literally get an acc from 1k to 4k+ without losing a single match.

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                  Akai赤井`(mode-fp mid)

                    If I can win up to 75-80% of the games from 1k to 2.4k MMR (crusader to archon 2) and I;m not even remotely close to Cookie's skill level, I assure you, he's more than capable of winning at least 60-70 if not more games in a row in 1k and 2k mmr.

                    Games here are literally so easy if you're capable of playing any of heroes below:

                    Meepo, Slark, SF, Arc Warden, TA, Invoker, Storm and list goes on.

                    If I can maintain solid 80% winrate over 80 games with Meepo, are you really in any doubt that better players can't do the same but with even better results?

                    Cookie is one of the best if not the best players on Dotabuff in my opinion, he's not doing false anything, he's just that good.

                    Try actually playing against him and see how'll you'll do.

                    Let's take example from this account: https://www.dotabuff.com/players/849826636

                    He wasn't even trying his best and yet he managed to maintain solid 80% winrate.

                    He's just good, he's not fake.

                    Javad

                      ^when u say party mmr is different than solo mmr i dont understand. Who do u think he played with in party? Some coordinated team? He literally just played with random ppl who asked to join, some regularly and some not.

                      Sure in party there arent game ruiners but lets be real how many games in 100 games do u get ruiners.

                      He didn't play his primary hero in the acc i played party with. We literally had the "whoever randoms last is a puzsy" deal.

                      If there's a smurf who takes advantage of ur team's lesser skills in solo, this party team was also filled with lesser skilled players

                      About losing the roll, I'm pretty sure just by mentioning he's 6k and showing the twitch or dbuff acc probelm gets solved

                      ywn

                        thats not his winstreak tahts his IQ WeSmart

                        Mlada i Luda

                          He's just good, he's not fake
                          .

                          good= being consistent in beating 2k scrub . luuul.

                          Cookie

                            Skill is a relative term to the rest of the playerbase, so compared to a 2k i am good.

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                            Javad

                              House logo on my acc when
                              Star on my acc when

                              Coconut

                                @ Ellie. so a guy with archon 0 tells me I am wrong (with 0 arguments) and calls me a kid. You see how pathetic that makes you look? You are in essence everything that is wrong with dota2.

                                @Cookie. WOW, just wow. not only you completely ignored all the factors I stated (the most important one is when you don't get to play your lane and get forced to play a support role or something else) you used the excuse that the party games are only 2 or 3 man.. well EXACTLY MY POINT. Having a core role and a support with you is all you need to win the game. Having all 5 people is just like you said... harder to control - just like it is hard to control who goes which lane in SOLO ranked.

                                and then you again claim you can get from 1k to 4k without losing a single match.... which is even more demented and far fetched. See that's impossible cause you can't get mid always... you can't get safe lane always... you can't get offlane always - which means you won't be able to adjust properly and you will end up losing eventually. You can win most games sure... but you won't get to play arc warden 100percent of times on mid lane that's just impossible sorry. If you could then I would tend to lean towards your point of view but you just can't. See I smurf with heroes like zeus(that aren't really ideal for boosting mmr unlike a hero like storm or SF or TA) and half of my games I have to fight for mid and argue in chat with retards. Just impossible to get the lane you need, let alone win the game.

                                You are just talking shit, I'll stop talking when you post me an acc(which isn't 3 years old) where you went from say 2000 to 4000mmr with 95% winrate with only SOLO RANKED. You just can't post that cause you don't have that. Simple as that.

                                @sia. The fact you don't understand just makes it even worse, seeing you are ancient 3 (not that it means much, given your clueless point of view) the guy he brought wasn't a retard so that means 1 less potential idiot in the team. The 3 other guys are usually a party so again like you said, no game ruiners.

                                and then the best part... you ask me to be real and tell you how many games in a 100 games you get ruiners? A lot. Even in a normal bracket. A ruiner is a dumbass core who refuses to buy a BKB vs 4+ stuns. A ruiner is a tard who keeps initiating fights while you clearly don't have teamfight potential, a ruiner is someone who doesn't ward the map yet plays support. There are TONS of ruiners that don't necessarily feed the courier, but ruin the game with their obsolete bullshit. A ruiner is someone who didn't get the lane so he gets tilted everytime he dies and pings you cos of course it is your fault that he is dead. In turn he gets more tilted and plays more aggro constantly feeding them, even though it isn't actually on purpose, he is just bad with emotions.

                                and best part and I do need to quote this:

                                About losing the roll, I'm pretty sure just by mentioning he's 6k and showing the twitch or dbuff acc probelm gets solved

                                HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA HAHAAH

                                YES, BECAUSE DOTA COMMUNITY IS VERY MATURE AND GIVES A SHIT.

                                wrong. They don't give a shit, most of them won't even read the link, and most of them will just say that everyone is a smurf nowadays and will tell you to fuck off.

                                You are totally, TOTALLY, clueless. They marked mid cause they want to play sniper mid. Most of them do not care about you or anyone else. You lose the roll, you lose the lane. If you somehow force yourself on the lane you will get multiple reports and end up in lower behavior pool getting x10 worse games. BEEN THERE, SEEN THAT, TRIED THAT.

                                I have 4 commends per win and have it advertised on my profile. When I played a lot and started boosting this account, nobody, NOBODY gave a FUCKING shit that I upped my medal 4 times in the last few days. Most of the games I had to snap 1st pick a hero and was regularly getting reports even though I carried the games.

                                Please.. don't talk about things you don't understand, cos it just makes you sound like the guy I first addressed. - Everything that is wrong with dota2.

                                Oh and yeah... what else to expect from a guy who spams one of the most overpowered heroes in dota (brood), and invoker (with whom you have sub 40 percent winrate, even though that's another overpowered trash hero) than a narrow minded view of dota community.

                                If it were up to me, people would get perma banned for stupidity and for playing overpowered trash heroes (brood, invoker, sky mage, pudge) - if anything, games would be much cleaner and kids would get punished for their irresponsible arrogance. VALVE should charge a monthly $ sum to play ranked, only then we will start having better games.

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                                  @Cookie, No offense intended, but u ain't the best at being good... Here's a kid who out leveled u at par
                                  https://www.dotabuff.com/players/296469846/records
                                  P.S.: No pun intended

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                                  Ai has replaced me

                                    Why would one even care. About any of it

                                    Tribo

                                      cookie is a baboon
                                      YES or NO
                                      my BROther

                                      Tribo

                                        wait, I forgot, insulting is haram

                                        Feachairu

                                          why is this become a drama thread lol

                                          ah okay,thanks

                                          can you give me the link acc of 81 winstreak?

                                          AloneInKyōto

                                            The poor kid is jealous how cute.
                                            Chill my broder.
                                            Talking shit about cooks is haram

                                            Héḱmō

                                              BROTHER! dont sin, allah showed me they way as someone said on dotabuff!

                                              keep it halal

                                              Regards
                                              brother

                                              Feachairu

                                                you all noob ty

                                                Feachairu

                                                  only hanyolo can save us

                                                  Suck my tiny curry dick

                                                    Only Grandpa Thad can save us my brother.

                                                    Javad
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                                                        Javad

                                                          In sorry to make my arguments you're absolutely right

                                                          Cookie

                                                            fear, don't have the acc, besides, i'm not even trying to win, i'm just playing for fun. If i was taking anything on these accs serious i would've started a boosting service, this is just my way to relax.

                                                            doing whatever careless thing i like is simply relaxing, as i said it a long time ago, i'm a casual scrub.

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                                                            Feachairu

                                                              ah okay,i actually just want to prove someone that you can actually win in 2k and have alots of streaks
                                                              those 2 accs are good i guess

                                                              tank you anyway

                                                              Clairvoyance

                                                                Getting this crazy streaks and winrates is usually quite impressive and rare as it's not an everyday thing to see certain numbers. Though most of these scenarios happen somewhere below one's skill level. Playing in very much lower brackets (several K-mmr) than one's skill group can make for matches of trivial difficulty for the "smurf" to such an extent that -unless for insane scenarios- his teammates' negative impact not only will be negligible, but it will even be significantly reduced, by enemies being put behind, thus putting your teammates ahead. Almost like playing with bots. Considering a 6k player is starting at 2k mmr and theoretically secures his win at the laning stage 95% of the times due to all the factors and exploits related to huge skill difference (snowballing, outfarming cores, getting enabled uncontested etc), it takes 80-85 wins of mmr to gain to reach 4k where matches would stop being winnable with a 100% rate (as mentioned).All this to say that Long streaks and high winrates like these are rare and hard, but not impossible to achieve. Furthermore, you're gonna need specific heroes for feats like this, trying to do the same with supports or heroes that lack some versatility is going to be much harder. And not to forget about LUCK being a considerable chunk of success for these.
                                                                In conclusion though these "crafted" rates end up mostly being merely "showers" due to their insignificance and inconsistence at peer-level comparison. It's all fun and games for the stats but at the end of the day it's like as if Ronaldo went to play the amateur cup at the local football club scoring 12 goals. Well if Ronaldo's professional friends only could score up to 8 goals in similar teams then yes, it's remarkable that he did better than his peers. but see, you're gonna need a solid point of reference to make solid deductions!
                                                                I would be more impressed to see people keep high win rates at their actual brackets, among peers (or almost) and in less than optimized conditions. For my humble rank i'm proud of having 65% win, at my actual bracket, on Brewmaster, hero that i started "main"-ing this ranked season and that last 6 months my Overall winrate is around 55%. It's cool for me to see brewmaster among my other "old" heroes - especially carries- with similar playtime that i used to play with 3-4 years ago and smurfing them over with a +15% win rate on them.

                                                                Cookie

                                                                  True, but that depends on your goals, it wouldn't be hard to maintain a 60%+ winrate even at 6k+ given actual practice.

                                                                  Javad

                                                                    ^^agreeing with 60% of this