General DiscussionDota 7.07c

Enjoy playing antimage folks

They just nerfed his early game.

Alch got a huge buff in my opinion.

For some reason the reduced Centaur's agility

Morph got his ult buffed, I think morph is actually better now.

Naga, SF, Spec, TA, Tusk, wind, ember got general buffs.

Not sure about tiny, huge damage and ms reduction but a lot of armor added, and buffs to grab

I'm completely convinced the guy doing game balance is not only on large amounts of multiple drugs but that they wouldn't qualify intelligence-wise as a "human being" anymore.

arc warden untouched again jaja

I'm not sure they know what they are doing, feels like just adding shit for lulz and being like YOLO let's see what happens then we experiment with something else if it doesn't work....... dota used to be much better 2-3 years ago

TA looks like some broken shit on paper.

Earth Spirit: Geomagnetic Grip silence duration reduced from 2.5/3/3.5/4 to 2/2.5/3/3.5 can they just stop doing this

Shadow Fiend: Shadow Raze bonus stacking damage increased from 60 to 80 gg

Glad they did something for Alche

And that WR buff, just now that I found out I like the hero and I got synergy with her

Also fuck Anti Mage

the tiny changes are fine, i think MoM tiny is legit now

Idk what they're trying to do w/that lvl 10 Brooq Q damage talent. It's useless and dogshit, you're never going to skill it.
They could've replaced it w/something like "Spawn Spiderlings give +1 big spider", which would be OK, but this is just complete garbage.

I am glad Brood received cosmetic nerfs, so that people will pick her even less and she'll fall from "meta" totally, so I can spam non-stop, without any nerf risk.

WR buffs monkaS

Basically only nerfs herr

They give Tiny armor but take away a lot from him too.

I'm certain Morph still sucks
Copying the target's stat that is weaker than your original stat is just dumb

155 second cooldown terrorblade metamorphosis. Great, at least I played him for one game again before this.

Time to sell my arcana.

You have a “carry” who can only output his full damage for effectively one third of the game. Oh and if he dies then that damage is lost cause his Meta form doesn’t last through death.

Also massive centaur nerf just when I was starting to play the hero. He lost almost 10% of his effective HP at level 25.

tiny had a rlly high winrate in high mmr before the nerfs, so justified?
idk man

Yeah.

I like it!

Oh not meepo Oh shit

"massive centaur nerf" its literally just 3 armor and 14 attack speed at level 25. if thats a "massive nerf" in your dictionary, then yeah. thats not how you fucking calculate EHP btw. you will have these things called "items", ever heard of them? they are great, try buying them.

Just play WD in turbo mode and you all good.

Murranji posts XD

Tiny is justified, Tb is justified

But Drow and huskar? I do not know. its coming out from nowhere for nerf

HOT NEWS

TA TRAPS NOW BOOST ENEMY MOVEMENT SPEED ROFL
probably bug

Why do they hate beastmaster so much? The moment the hero picks up some momentum, they gotta nerf the damn bird's speed.

I'm so glad they nerfed Meepo. This hero should be removed altogether.

Tiny will feature more. Good.

Thank god Underlord is unaffected. #roadto5k.

huskar got 5 ms and he is one of the highest 5k+ winrate heroes soooooo
he is fine tho u start wind lace anyway

bane is dumpstered
meepo is as strong as ever
shadow fiend PogChamp

Finally they nerf anti mage !

REEEEEEE MUH BOUNTY RUNES pos4 sadbois

why is terrorblade getting nerfed

who the fuck buying bkb to counter Spectre so piercing bkb doesn't mean anything to her but -15 desolate dmg ...... gosh what did she do to deserve this.

-0.5 sec Earth spirit silence...okay give me -cd stone remnant or some shit because i need 2 stone everytime to make his skill efficiency

Why is terroblade getting nerfed?

TB literally always picked in every pro matches already

JUST CAME BACK TO DOTA YESTERDAY AND MY LUNA AND TB GOT NERF END MY LIFE DUDE

Noooooooo meepo and anti mage got nerfed

90% of this forum doesn't play Meepo anyway.
And Anti-Mage is a shit hero, so good riddance.

I am honestly in tears right now. Tiny was the first hero I was ever good at. I remember I bought Shadow Blade on him as my first item and would regularly get 20 kills in a game. Before they started fucking him in 7.07, I played a game with Tiny where after a successful team fight, I destroyed their base before they could do anything about it. I took out the mid racks and then went for the throne. After 7.07, I played him for the lulz just to see how garbage he was and he was actually not so bad. I destroyed a trilane as a solo offlane and ended the game with over 20 kills and one death (would have been 0 if cold snap weren't so OP). Now I can't do anything with Tiny. Assault Cuirass gives you 15 armour but what gives you 60 base damage and 60 movement speed? I now know the pain of Dark Seer, Earth Spirit, and Brood players.

I now know the pain of Dark Seer, Earth Spirit, and Brood players.

Yea, that invisibility removal was a really huge nerf, Brood was all about being invisible.
Now you can't kill anyone and die all the time.

I am in tears, for how huge of a nerf that patch was. Unplayable.

Really? you think the new tiny is worse? 15 armor is a fucking ton and what he really needed, plus the buffed tree grab a lot so it makes up for the dmg loss. 120% extra on builds, damn dude. Just build echo, ac, heart. Move speed nerf is a lot but tiny should have a blink anyway.

8.9 armour at 25 without items -> 6.5 armour = a 27% decrease. The amount of effective hp lost only increases as you increase his strength.

Old - 2720 x 1 + 0.05x8.9 = 3930hp.

New 2720 x 1 + 0.05x6.5 = 3604hp (a 326 difference).

If you add a heart then it went from 4020 x 1 + 0.05x8.9 = 5808hp.

Now 4020 x 1 + 0.05x6.5 = 5326hp (a 481.5 difference).

So a heart itself now also provides 155 less effective HP.

Armour is more important on high HP heroes which means that armour nerfs on them are proportionally bigger nerfs than armour nerfs on low HP heroes.

Water is wet

Don't do drugs, kids.

Templar Assassin: Level 10 Talent changed from +250 Health to +3 Psionic Traps
Templar Assassin: Psionic Trap damage increased from 175/250/325 to 250/350/450
Templar Assassin: Psionic Trap max charge time reduced from 6s to 4s

TA traps ~ techies bombs

Also that -10% magic resistance hurts so bad for meepo.also that sweet 40 damage lvl 20 talent is gone.. Feelssadman

Desolate now pierces spell immunity and it is still pure damage...No matter how high your armor,it still penetrates,it should've been physical damage...