General Discussionmid or safelane alch?

You'll get farmed anyways on alch, doesn't matter if you get shut down or if you have a hard time. His passive can even make 2k players look good.

OT imo alch isnt a good mid hero but putting alch in safelane would be worse since he isnt rly a hard carry (well depends on how you build him ofc) but tbh rather have him mid and someone else safelane than vice versa.

his point is that his farm wont matter because if he loses mid to a ta and gets a 19 min armlet rad ta has blink deso diffusal/bkb and rosh and is probably 7/0/3 or some shit, then you lose

Mid
But he sucks now

safelane can be better farm minute 1-10, yes. but as alch its ok to just hit level 6 at 5-6 minutes, have brown boots and a talon and go into the jungle, giving the lane to a support while the real carry can farm safelane. thats better for your team imo, unless you lane vs viper or ursa or get ganked early

There are more creeps in mid

whatever gives you more overall creeps

he's like od, arc, bs, jugg etc. who can all just easily switch between mid and safe

People prefer mid because you have easier access to bounty runes that way. And also because 4 melee creeps.

either one is fine, but i'd pick it early (ban aa + 3rd pick or something) so that they counter pick you mid, and your mid can counterpick their mid if u want to go safe

pos 4 alch, trust me

I prefer dire mid. You can stack from your tower medium camp on 54 from minute two and minute 4 you can go top and take rune and farm tripple stack.

But usually you want roamer/support help you through first minute or two - bully other mid, protect you and after that, once lvl 4 you are good to go alone.

how about nowhere

just kidding, mid is too good to pass up because of easily available camps in the vicinity as well as + 1 creep, and solo exp is kinda important to alch

You can't shut down an alch in mid lane, he just farms with acid spray, pushes the wave out, takes side camps. He just needs level 6 that's it. I've completely shitstomped alch mids on sniper. Sniper's a pretty good hero for dealing with him cus he can zone with shrapnel and out range the spray, most mids can't hit alch behind it, but even with denying 1-2 per wave he still got his farm and just really didn't care that I won the lane. Alch is a very passive laner.

After the acid spray nerf it became harder, but before u cud start zoning at lvl 2

its not about what lane its about ur teammates helping u

Ywn's tim hol him bak

@Dire Wolf, you do realize you can deny most of the creeps if alch leaves the lane, right