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General DiscussionEvery time I play SF

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Kruelty-

    Every time I plat SF my hard carry is always shit, like I dominant my lane and early/mid game but my carry with all the help my team can give is completely useless. 38% winrate all because of this kind of bs.
    Am I doing something wrong? Am I at fault here?

    Jacked

      Sf sucks balls.

      meteor hammer

        Sf sucks balls.

        Shou

          i wish sf didnt suck balls
          but he does
          and idk why
          it feels like i just become useless after smashing midlane

          A

            Every time I plat invoker my hard carry is always shit, like I dominant my lane and early/mid game but my carry with all the help my team can give is completely useless. 38% winrate all because of this kind of bs.
            Am I doing something wrong? Am I at fault here?

            Grimm

              SF is the king of stomps, you just suck bro sry

              Kruelty-

                I mean you can check my stats with the hero and the matches, but its ok

                PVMRT

                  Stomp the midlane, gank the other lane, farm your jungle and destroy thier ancient.

                  cartel

                    38% winrate sf is the new 44% winrate invoker monkaS

                    Riguma Borusu

                      Almost all currently popular heroes are good vs sf. So don't pick this piece of shit.

                      VP

                        Every time I plat SF my hard carry is always shit, like I dominant my lane and early/mid game but my carry with all the help my team can give is completely useless. 91% winrate all because of this kind of bs.

                        Handyfire

                          There are many heroes that share this trait with sf: viper, necro, zues, ... They can win lane hard but fall off in lategame, like, you just get a 6-7 kill streak but just 1 lost teamfight and your momentum just stop. I think for these heroes you just have to gank lanes frequently, just so the safelane carry can be useful later.

                          VP

                            What i've seen in 3k is that they are okish in farming but they don't know how to utilize it

                            chicken spook,,,,

                              ^THIS

                              30 YEAR OLD DOTA VETERAN

                                Hit tower

                                Melt

                                  i saw sf coming back from a 5v3 with 2 lanes of barracks down at 20, running over the entire enemy team on his own once he had bkb
                                  what you need is a frontliner. you deal enuf dmg already, fuck your carry

                                  also, if you feel like your carry is behind go fucking fight the enemy team and stop taking away all of the jungle creeps, let the carry farm them instead. if hes retarted, ignore that part ofc.

                                  Desolate

                                    LMAO SF SUCKS I HOPE THIS IS TROLLING

                                    if u cant carry with sf ur whole team than ur shit sf!!!!!!!!

                                    CUTNPASTE

                                      I mean SF as a hero is basically pos 1 so it really doesn't matter how garbage your safelaner is. The hero isn't in the greatest spot but you can play it in pubs to at least 5k if you are skilled.

                                      -vzta-

                                        ^

                                        Desolate

                                          sf farms faster than anti and sven early mid game if ucant carry with sf , go die u fuck

                                          meteor hammer

                                            if u cant carry with sf ur whole team than ur shit sf!!!!!!!!

                                            i have 100% sf winrate on this acc, i just dont pick it this patch. it will probably get buffed soon

                                            https://www.dotabuff.com/players/215678138/matches?hero=shadow-fiend

                                            Shou

                                              Katz doesn't understand that it's not a piece of cake to rekt people as sf unless ur mega stomping.

                                              Oldman

                                                Today I learned from this thread that Necro falls off late game.....

                                                Desolate

                                                  OMG 100 % WINRATE WOW JDF TELL ME MORE IM CURRENTLY IN DEPRESSION I DONT SE EXIT AND DOT KNOW WHAT TO DO PLS TELL ME MORE

                                                  Lokieleven

                                                    I like sf, and always do well early game, but can never finish a game with the hero for some reason

                                                    Dire Wolf

                                                      probably you and the carry overlap, sf needs to farm a couple items, then is pure dmg, no utility so he's like a position 1 in the mid lane. You want your carry then to be able to take some fights, have a little utility, make space. Maybe a necrophos or wraith king, but definitely not something like am or sniper or spectre, probably not troll or sven.

                                                      _________________________

                                                        Dont play dependent from ur pos1 carry.
                                                        Just be carry urself and end it fast as u can.

                                                        Emon

                                                          you win mid almost most of the time right?
                                                          Hence, stop overcommiting in ganking sidelanes. Create pressure by farming mid creeps and jungling in between waves. If you think you need to solo carry the game farm mid and jungle in between waves hard til it reaches a point wherin no one wants to lane with you anymore. Abuse the space you created not by ganking but by farming efficiently thats how you win the game i think

                                                          Emon

                                                            basically play him like an am where you just farm your lane as much as possible and join teamfights only when you know you can kill them all without taking too much dmg

                                                            Emon

                                                              However if you have teammates who can heal have a sustain like a necro safelane or dazzle support . You push as 5 take objectives as soon as you get your first or second core item . Kill all outer towers - buy bkb - or take rosh bkb highground works wonders

                                                              Emon

                                                                Also try creating space by choking the enemy farm this is usually done when all tier 2 towers are destroyed ) by farming the enemy jungle