Well bane has the highest starting stats among all heros so this just fixes the Later games 0.3 per lvl is almost ultimate orb at 25. Dont think its a meme.
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There was also a patch that said: Dark Seer's Vacuum cooldown from 18 secs to 18.0 secs, because of the "every major patch brings a cooldown nerf to his vacuum meme"
So yeah, whoever's in charge of balancing the game is very well aware of the memes.
im really tired and i just read bane as benao lmoa
Well, benao is a meme anyways.
Well bane has the highest starting stats among all heros so this just fixes the Later games 0.3 per lvl is almost ultimate orb at 25. Dont think its a meme.
True, but does it really do anything for the hero over 25 levels? I mean obviously it does SOMETHING, but is it really relevant for supports in general? The logic has always been that if you are caught out of position you're dead anyways. Maybe it's different with bane being both tanky and fast as fuck.
There was also a patch that said: Dark Seer's Vacuum cooldown from 18 secs to 18.0 secs, because of the "every major patch brings a cooldown nerf to his vacuum meme"
So yeah, whoever's in charge of balancing the game is very well aware of the memes.
That's actually amazing, I didn't know about that one, either!
if u think about it zeus getting a 7 armor talent = 49 agi or +1.95 agi gain per lvl 
except even better because u get it all at 15 not 25
I find the case of zeus pretty interesting because it'd make you wonder "When did zeus become a tanky fucker? I can swear a few years ago he was a glass canon piece of shit that you'd kill in several hits."
Then you remember everything. Armor talents. Bigger STR gain. Bigger health pool for everyone, including zeus. Veil as a core. Aghs that is actually useful and gives hp on top of that. Octarine core. Always some handy kiting utility in forcestaff/euls/etc.
Oh and people who build shivas on zeus deserve to die, seriously, a fucking int caster shouldn't have more armor than a fucking DK.
godly tanky
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Shiva is also great if you are in vicinity of your own nimbus cloud since you reduce people's attack speed, so even if they want to kill it, they are punished for it even more.
another proof for meme balance
7.06
Techies
replaced -60 respawn talent with 250 damage talent at lvl 25
Puck also has a 420 GPM talent. That can't be a coincidence. There's no way that Valve used some magic to determine that 400 or 450 are not good round values, but 420 is.
I say puck blazes it.
idk if stacking armor on zeus is the best idea, doesnt armor work better for your ehp if you have a bigger amount of actual hp?
idk if stacking armor on zeus is the best idea, doesnt armor work better for your ehp if you have a bigger amount of actual hp?
It does, but zeus has a 2.6 str gain and 19 bas str. On top of that, he does build HP in form of octarine core (which doubles as survivability) and aghs.
The days when Zeus was a squishy glass canon are long gone. This hero builds tank items. Still, if caught without any mobility, and the enemy has a bkb he'll still die, but it will take a while.
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Does anyone except me find it hilarious that Bane got +0.3 per level for EVERY stat in 7.06 (not just STR, like other heroes), just so that he'd have a uniform stat gain? Kind of makes you think about priorities when balancing, if something is gonna be kept just because it's a meme, because it's hard to believe that the decision was brought after careful observation of what kind of buffs bane needs. I know that's the same patch his aghs got reworked, but I just found this funny when I was looking for something on his wiki page.