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General Discussionhotd ember?

hotd ember? in General Discussion
white boy summer

    it could be a replacement/situational for eul's, ofc it doesn't provide the bonus movement and mana regen and debuff at the same time, yet it could provide one of them, it is cheaper and it has an aura hp regen, so if you're playing a more team focused ember, you could make use of it. dominating a satyr tricker (dunno if its the name) you can get yourself a debuff just as good as eul's (even better cause you can slow/debuff enemies also), while dominating a kobold can provide bonus movement. hope i dont get shittalked cause normal skill bracket, it's just a discussion

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      white boy summer

        thanks for joining the discussion with this valuable information. tell me what is wrong/why is it not viable. bashing lowskills is easier ofc

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            Tutz^

              I wouldn't ever win so many games with Ember in 2k, were I to build such weak items. Both Euls and HotD are garbage on him.

              You can buy blatant Drops for mana regen.
              Manta -> Euls period.
              Drums/BM/Veil/Aquila -> HotD period.

              Too lazy to write the whole foundation of such statements, for you should've understood this yourself.

              Build whatever you want though.

              TheMaverick427

                The regen isn't really needed since embers now build Veil which gives you decent regen and you're ember so you can always tp to base and heal then return with remnant. You don't need it for the team aura since someone else on your team will most likely have it anyway and auras don't stack.
                The creeps do come with nice abilities but ember is a very mobile hero. He usually has BOTs and is moving all over the map with remnant and Travels so the creep cant keep up at all.
                Also you generally don't build euls anyway. If you want to dispel debuffs the go-to item is manta although Lotus orb could be good situationally.

                white boy summer

                  i don't skip veil, just getting a hotd instead euls, cause i see a lot of vhs players going euls.-

                  white boy summer

                    and funnily enough the only reason i'm out of 1200 (currently 2.6) mmr is because of ember

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                      @bloodeagle plz watch the game completely .
                      mayb the enemy had a silencer..still manta is better than euls.hotd must be purchased ASAP(early game item).no use getting it as 3rd or 2nd item,certainly not good on mid heroes unless u are miracle playing invo.get it on jugg though.and i dont see how hotd can replace euls.(u shudnt be buying this too)

                      white boy summer

                        yes, there was sky and silencer it the enemy, and that's where i'm getting at. eul's is a situational, because if there's silence in the enemy, u are fucked. by no means i would buy an euls if there's nothing to debuff. but if u are only getting eul to debuff such massive silences, then tricker's purge should do it too, and it's cheaper. i'm talking about replacing a situational with another situational item which is actaully cheaper so you can focus/get core items faster, cause you already have a cure for your counters.