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General DiscussionExtra help with ta

Extra help with ta in General Discussion
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    So there was a thread here last week asking this, but since the update her early spike from farming anchents is kind of shit now.
    I can play her somewhat okay, but my cs just is not good enough, she's a fun hero but I want to know how to be good with her.

    raptured

      In order to play better you need to improve, what is so hard about that?

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        Are you dumb? I want to improve on a specific hero, to play better.
        I'm asking for tips from good ta players since her early game
        Is different now, what will the good ta players do

        raptured

          That's not what your post said. But I guess 3ks are the smart guys on the forums these days.

          Sarllo

            @stay calm and xD if wont help, just ignore the post...
            @The positive teamate whats new about TA?
            postdata: i suck with the hero

            BADMAN

              STAY CALM UR A GOOD Ta PLAYER....

              BADMAN

                https://www.dotabuff.com/players/370799791/matches?hero=templar-assassin
                YOUR WIN RATE IS SO HIGH NO WORRY U ARE GOOD///4:@

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                  Yeah wp @stay calm. 2kda with your ta.
                  Don't comment on a ta question thread if your ta is worthless fam

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                    @ sarllo the problem with ta this patch is stacking the anchient every minute was a quick way to get crazy gold early on, but now since creeps spawn every 2 minutes it's much harder to get ahead.
                    I want to know how the good ta players are adapting, and what separates an okay ta from a good one

                    doc joferlyn simp
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                      BADMAN

                        Just keep going stack every 53.

                        Jacked

                          Still can stack. Abuse trap to get every rune

                          Emvi

                            get deso and fuck them.

                            Shou

                              I mean waga is a great ta player his gameplay is a good place to start

                              Jacked

                                @stay calm. to get rich you need to make money. wow

                                BADMAN

                                  Now the trap is so good

                                  FHigh420HighE

                                    your problem with TA is that your going blink first, causing you to get 17 minute deso, when your could get deso first, and then have both items together at a earlier timing. if you stack 5 times, and get deso at 11 but going brown boots-bottle-deso, you can clear that stack very easily at 11 or 12, get a blink by 14-15, get tp boots by 17.

                                    Also traps +deso is much more deadly for kills at 12 minutes, rather than blink no deso

                                    I'll make a replay tonight of 900-1k gpm TA, I have done the 1k GPM TA before on smurf accs, but I can never seem to find which acc it was on

                                    not sure I can still do the 1k gpm on the new patch, havent tried

                                    you have to realize that, pre 22 minutes when playing TA, if your dead, your dead. Your either going to get the kill, or your not and your going to die, or escape, but an aquila will literally make 0 difference of whether you live or die, or get a kill.

                                    This is why the most effective way to play her is to rush deso, in order to get blink deso together faster, in order to then get TP boots.

                                    then when at 17 minutes you have deso blink, tp boots, you can easily get 2-3 kills, then immediately tp right into a wave and get 2-3 waves of farm in a lane, and repeat.

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                                    A

                                      is orchid good item for ta?

                                      FHigh420HighE

                                        heres 950 gpm, woulda been 1k if my team wasnt total trash, the last 6 minutes of the game was them getting wiped over and over while i tried to get the last racks myself

                                        https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2847284998

                                        FHigh420HighE

                                          950 gpm TA boys. definitely was at 1k gpm at 36 minutes in the game

                                          fear is the mind killer

                                            ^ this guy lmao, we get it you had a 1k gpm ta game, no need to triple post about it

                                            BADMAN

                                              wp ta prince.....

                                              BADMAN

                                                orchid is good have a good regen....

                                                Xyp9x
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                                                  quity

                                                    oh you get these stats on SEA, lmao and I thought you're kinda good

                                                    Jacked

                                                      rofl. ta god

                                                      Field Medic

                                                        check my TA game boys 1k GPM but i died 3 times in last minute

                                                        https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2847284998

                                                        praise me plzzz

                                                        Xyp9x
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                                                          the realm's delight

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                                                            Story Time

                                                              anyone buys Medallion on TA?

                                                              BADMAN

                                                                5 never

                                                                Story Time

                                                                  well, there are some games when TA gets solar crest and then 58% win rate. This doesnt mean anything of course, but theroetically it can work right? Minus 25 armour (desol, solar and meld)

                                                                  BADMAN

                                                                    Solar chest for tanker exp,early game if mid face bb

                                                                    Shou

                                                                      Fyi blink also lets u farm faster, and a deso rush is countered by any sort of mobility. If u trap and try to walk up to deso hit then they force staff or pounce, leap, skewer, away etc. Aquila helps in pushing early, and she likes the stats its not rlly abt killing. Plus with deso first ur like an ursa with bkb first or an axe with vanguard first. Runnig at people to kill them isnt reliable, especially cuz u dont even build phase or some shit to help u do it. With a blightstone u get enough early game value to go blink, then u can build a deso. I wud build deso first against huskar.

                                                                      evy

                                                                        Can anyone explain to me why phase is less popular now
                                                                        Maybe because it gets completely replaced by blink/pike or what

                                                                        Shou

                                                                          Blink deso doesnt rlly need phase but i like 24 dmg over some attack speed on my ta

                                                                          _kuhaku_

                                                                            My build on TA is the phase-blink- deso. And its pretty good really...

                                                                            Plus the build ended my red days so...

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                                                                              Hey guys, I've been praticing ta on my 2k account and so far have been dumperstering everything, I'll try out phase boots but I'll prob always go blink first since it makes you so much harder to kill

                                                                              fear is the mind killer

                                                                                make fucking TREADS ! Or phase but dont stay with shity brown boots pls

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                                                                                  I go treads i never leave brown boots on ta lol

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                                                                                    2k indog monkey

                                                                                      Not upgrading brown boots before getting big items on most heroes are so 2k
                                                                                      Tbh the only heroes that comes in my mind that can enjoy having brown boots only are enigma, dark seer, huskar, and timber

                                                                                      BADMAN

                                                                                        Just make tread and get Brightstone, a quilt, deso,dagger tat all
                                                                                        Spike or manta and butterfly,cri gg

                                                                                        FHigh420HighE

                                                                                          The way I play it is bottle boots, midas if I think my team can last to 20 minutes.

                                                                                          If not then I rush deso, usually get it at like 10 minutes. Then use the deso to clear a 5 stack at ten minutes. The usually by 13 minutes with another set of stacks I have blink. Then I get boots of travel at 15-17, then crystalys by 19.

                                                                                          Every time you get a kill or tower use the tp boots to immediately transfer to another lane to get a wave or two and another tower.

                                                                                          Phase is almost a useless item compared to tp boots. 24 dmg is nothing compared to the ability to move between lanes to get waves and towers at every opportunity.

                                                                                          Shou

                                                                                            This u may not understand, but u get phase/treads EARLIER THAN BOTS where those stats MATTER. Ta is too active to buy tp boots, she needs treads/phase for better fighting. Also midas on ta sounds like pure garbage, she has a core set of items she wants ideally before 20 minutes, and doesnt need anything midas gives. She farms fast as it is, and levels come to her naturally, she isnt dependent on them like an aa or nyx. U cud rush deso to clear the 5 stack, or u cud clear repeated 2-3 stacks with blightstone and go blink first to be more active. The latter gives ta the most impact where she is strongest.

                                                                                            Kill yourself in the name...

                                                                                              YOUR BAD AT PLAYING HER.

                                                                                              Shou

                                                                                                Lol diox

                                                                                                FHigh420HighE

                                                                                                  daddy, +24 dmg and a few seconds of speed boost every 20 seconds for 7 minutes is not that important except in certain situations, but why dont we test it out by queing together, 2 matches, you play ta 1 match ill play ta the other and we will whos TA is more effective/ impacting

                                                                                                  The Medic Guy

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                                                                                                    ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE YOU PUSS

                                                                                                    2k indog monkey

                                                                                                      What if I tell you I can play void with dagon veil eblade with more impact than your void?
                                                                                                      Having the right item build will give some advantage but that doesn't mean you can't be impactful with retarded ones

                                                                                                      BADMAN

                                                                                                        No midas in ta,no point fast farming hero