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Xcell

    Help me out from low 4k, i mainly play as hard supp / core supp.. Tell me what i am lacking off.. Good feedback gladly welcome..

    Jacked

      Have u tried stacking and pulling?

      Flaming your carry can help to motivate them sometimes

      Xcell

        Yes everyhing supp shld did, buy courier, up courier at minute 3, buy yellow and blue wards, pull camp, stacking, gang, rotation, smoke, harass enemy core hero so my core can farm his core item etc..

        zimzalabim

          ^Fucking right. If they r dying multiple times even if you tried your best to save them, say "Dont fucking def, let them end". Works perfectly in low 4k.

          dead

            low 4k is cancer, just have to be lucky with your teammates, and pray that their not retarted

            clueless clown

              yo, i think purge's guide to zoning correctly can help you. most supports draw creep aggro which is really bad. also see some guides on night/day time vision so u can gank more effectively.

              Illyasviel

                first pick carries on SEA is dogshit anyway

                Potato Marshal

                  I'm in the same situation as you, and no matter how hard you win the early game, some SEA tryhard shitter will start thinking he can solo the enemy team alone. Even at 4k, people seem to be completely oblivious to whether or not who has an advantage in a fight, or even basic concepts like not diving 2000 units ahead of your team to initiate and getting blown up before they even arrive.

                  Jacked

                    ^think this happens at every level though. Lol. It's just natural to throw when u are ahead.

                    zimzalabim

                      @Ar tu na'din That's why they need a good support like what op is saying.

                      Potato Marshal

                        Not that I think any of you care, but I had a Huskar literally die 5 times in a row without getting a single kill because he thought he could dive the enemy team alone without bkb. He literally saw 3 heroes at their mid t3 while their t2 was up and dived alone. It's like people are oblivious to comeback mechanics.

                        https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2806523586

                        robert

                          Git gud

                          Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

                            well spam you're masteral hero. I mean what you are good with :) one thing to gain mmr easily :)
                            just like dendi he spam magnus :)

                            Jacked

                              Sometimes when I'm carrying. I like to dive as soon as I see an opportunity. Of course, it could be a bad play, or
                              It could be the supports not seeing an opportunity where there was one (and u as a support was out of position to potentially help)

                              Xcell

                                For example.. This game.. Where my team last pick dr at offlane, dr sai to let him solo offlane.. And he get rekt then blame us.. And abandon the game.

                                This the prove :
                                https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2806802748

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                                Jacked

                                  One unwinnable game doesn't prevent u from getting 5k

                                  RIP

                                    always blame urself for losing. him asking for solo offlane doesn't mean you can't tp into his lane and turn around fights when he's getting dived at the tower.
                                    but yeah i dunno.

                                    Illyasviel

                                      blame urself for losing

                                      sure ill blame myself if i have winrate below 50%

                                      Peekaboo

                                        communication and vision - 'I'm coming mid'
                                        -'Pudge is missing, careful'
                                        'We should take rosh as our next objective, help me ward up?'
                                        'well played' 'Good job' 'nice, lets get top tower and ward thier jungle'

                                        simple direction and communication can easily turn the tides in a pub.
                                        Less flaming, more teamwork = MMR

                                        Potato Marshal

                                          Even if you don't know a word in English, all you have to do is ping and communicate. There have been so many features added over the years that make communicating so much faster and easier, yet people are still to dumb/lazy to do it.

                                          I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                            Lose more games

                                            Illyasviel

                                              but the prob is, ppl are too stupid to listen

                                              TheDoctor (HTPG)

                                                what ar tu nadin said is true
                                                i think in SEA server its based on luck
                                                sometimes you got good teamates it'll be a nice game
                                                sometimes you got retards as teamates you just have to accept the fact you're gonna lose

                                                RIP

                                                  if you don't blame yourself for every loss and try to notice your own mistakes you will eventually lose every game that your team doesnt carry you

                                                  like its happening to me now. every game my team is utter and complete trash. if i dont play like a god i know i will lose 100%.

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                                                  Story Time

                                                    ^jesus, 46% winrate in NS

                                                    Sarllo

                                                      <4k normaly late game wins, so, pick supp who woks well in late game, heroes like BH, maidem, chen will normaly leads u to terrible and frustatring losing streak, since no one want to break edifices (the real target) and will farm until the game ends.. heroes like warlock, ogre (real popular right now), ancient aparition, zeus, shaker are good examples..

                                                      when u finally surpass the 4k, then play the game as must be played..