General DiscussionIs arc still op? Is he overnerfed. Do players don't know how to play ...

Was arc added to cm already?

It's captain's draft

Arc can be played in CM now?
I guess arc is just bad against a coordinated team, unlike pub.

in pubs, arc is super stronk

Will arc warden always be viable in a pub, or will he stop being relevant after player actually know how to play against him?

People will only learn to play against him if he becomes so cancer you see him 1/3 games

I imagine Cookie would say, arc is op af, you can always first pick him every game.

keep in mind w33haa is still in romania and had like 200+ ping

Inb4 arc is buffed for pro scene

dude arc has always been op cmon

im fairly sure once this hero is in captains mode he will be top pick material unless he gets more nerfs. once people start seeing how aids this hero is they'll start spamming him in all brackets. this hero just has too much dmg at all points of game, but hes a pain to play like tinker.

arcs not good.

aui too gud

way up in the stronger heroes at the moment

He is bonkers.

Col picked arc as well vs EG as well http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2749973259
Pretty sure Justin is lower tier player comparing to others.

Honestly, arc is still op in certain aspects. For example, his q. Another is his double midas.

I watched np vs DC live, the casters said that arc warden's farming is static, there is no way for him to come back after a bad laning stage. But in pubs he can get a ton of solo picks to snowball.

If u think about it, double misdas isn't that op, most cores farms faster than that.

Eh? Double midas is amazing. imagine how many heroes Midas would be viable on if you doubled the gold and exp it gave.

Double Midas=228 gpm

arc is completely fair

It's all about the xp mate.

I think there needs to be a tanky frontliner or arc to works in a draft.

It's actually less than 228gpm (apart from not being able to use it immediately when it is off cooldown you lose the chance to kill the creep you use it on)

But as misty says, it's mainly about the exp.

But arc doesn't need levels that bad past lvl 14, tempest double really doesn't scale well.