General Discussionmeta predictions for 6.87

scratch that. Hurricane pike WILL BE the go-to item for sniper. The hero itself just needs a damage buff so badly.

Viper,axes with blade mail and naga could be cancer this patch
Bristle is kinda strong too

qw invoker will rise again, because of bloodthorn, invoker will still be a cancer

hard carry like am and pa might not go for abyssal at all and go mkb insteal

drums had a huge nerf, it will drop popularity on invo slark etc

I give no fucks, I think I can play Winter Wyvern again.

octrine mana regen nerf, blood stone buff, basically telling ppl to buy bloodstone on zeus instead of octrine, ocrtine nerf didnt matteror dp, invo or other eul's carriers, they have enough mana regen anyways. Meanwhile, zeus usually go mana boot aether lens octrine or bloodstone,
back then octrine was way better than bloodstone because of the cd reduction and heal, now zeus wont have enough mana with it.

ww agh's is fucking amazing btw

scan ability=smoke nerf=less 5 man
creeps gold buff=more farming
im really happy about this, im ahuge fan of heroes like am luna, farming huge stacks and creeps waves is the sickest thing in dota, imo

axe will dominiate 1k bracket

invoker and dp are still the best mid

u cant take rosh early just with a invoker on ur team anymore, for they nerfed forge spirit health nerf, this is the biggest nerf to invo, so i think qw invo will be way better in 6.87.

pa's laning will be super strong, and the new buff helps with early jungle roration as well

pa, slark new tier 1 carrys, and sven is still op as fuck, 5ms nerf is nothing, they need to nerf warcry or god strength. spec is still good as well

that's most of thoughts, i love this kind of discussion. really looking forwards to this patch

Slark glimmer cape, solar crest, bloodthorne build for pubs.

Spectre stays relevant with blademail vanguard build into eventual abyssal.

Storm safe lane or jungle with iron talon going bloodstone orchid aghs thorn

SF Euls blink aghs makes the ult instakill even at like 3k hp cuz of the souls giving 5 more lines which is like 1k damage. Seems pretty strong.

Axe blademai

Qop really good with orchid bkb crit thorn build.

New armor reduction item on roaming bounty.

TA buys the force staff item no blink if you can still meld strike from infinite range, also she buys the armor reduction item in lane for psi blade synergy.

Wind ranger crazy strong with late game thorn aghs and force staff item.

i honestly think storm aghs is garbage

Pa's new dagger seems really strong. She might have even more reasons to actually build rapier late game(and drop it Kappa)

Forgot to add there would be a marked winrate spike for axe.

pretty much axe is broken now

good early game and scales into late game

no longer countered by armor nor bkb

I also think abyssal blade will get a winrate increase on its own.

vanguard naga, unkillable illusions :)
tarrasque is no more abyssal is the way to go, it makes your illusions tankier than heart and is a better fighting item

- Storm agha refresher incoming. U heard it here first boys.
- Str heroes will dominate this meta
- riki will become average
- invo still quite good not OP though
- OD got buttfucked
- spectre is now just above average
- sven almost untouched
- blyatcyka will become the other jungling cancer with LC
- agi carries have taken the hardest hit because str have been buffed, magic dmg buffed and they got nothing and bladmail will fuck up some of them
- naix back to trash tier even with his 3.0 str gain blademail can now destroy him
- axe is actually really good now
- earthshaker is the new OSfrog, litteraly
- SF's aghs will become viable
- drow ranger will become situationally broken.
- Beastmaster still good.
- brewmaster is above average now.

^ ya but wats the point of making them unkillable by creeps lmao

just get a casual stout and u can jungle with them alot easier

Lich will be the New aa from 6.85

if u go to the meta tab of Heroes, you'll see that three biggest winners are axe, lifestealer (what?) and timbersaw (wtf?)

@nami you dont rush vg in a good freefarming game i think but gives you the option at least to build something if you get preassured, you can jungle at full hp while your illusions split push since minute 10 or less and someone needs to come to your line and nuke the illusions cuz they dont give a shit about right clicks while youre safe farming jungle and still the extra hp makes them harder to nuke, my point is you can be annoying, farm, and make space to yourself with no need of babysitting without going all in radiance rush and still get radiance at a decent timing.
lategame you can upgrade to abyssal, i rather have 4k hp with abyssal and 40 damage block in all my illusions than just 4.5 hp with heart... and the main naga is much stronger with abyssal no doubt

pretty sure axe win rate will drop off once people get used to him again. he is fairly straightforward to counter by easily played heroes.

naga tb medusa

what's with slark

Lifestealer is the hero boys, like always.

Life stealer New Build is awesome=Echo +Armlet+Sange&Yasha+DEsolator

I think ench will still be fine because it was only her late game that got nerfed, and her dragon lance now can build into an item that works with her anyway. Also the untouchable was untouched so she is still bs

Storm safelane, Orchid , bloodstone, aghanim, finish Bloodthorn,

Bloodstone first I think.

Damage block on illusion is actually huge for tb
You can tank jungle creeps with illusions and PMS
Even vanguard can be viable imo since is scales to abyssal

Everyone's going crazy for 6.87 lol...

Pl with abysal blade and diffusal. Now diffusal burn 40 mana. PL is back

I JUST WONDER , HUSKAR DPS IS ALREADY RIDICILOUS WHY NOT BUFF FOR TANKINESS WTF.
but hey still a buff i will take it #huskarplayer4life

^illusions burn less mana

is it only me that got excited about huskar? anyoneeeeeee :(

Echo sabre nerf incoming kappa

i might be moving from invoker to huskar :)
LOLJOKE I REKT HIM EASILY

^ u not see my huskar yet ayakami >:( 11 winstreak at 6.86 as huskar 4head

I used to insta 4 spell on huskar and he died in less than 3s
dunno in this patch havent play yet
huskar still dangerous tho :))

any good hero to spam for mmr?

^ bounty hunter still ez win man.

@ayakami people always thought huskar is suicidal what makes people understimate huskar and i rekt their faces lawl