Talisman delays the bottle way too much, don't do it unless you are confident that you can get last hits with autoattack.
u can get it after bottle, and mb after boots, too
delaying ur bottle sucks
mb just na dota things tho
Why the fuck would you buy a +9 DMG item on a hero that doesn't even hit?
Kitrak you are on a nine lose strak as Zeus. MB drop the Null?
(3.8k) I personally LOve Talisman + shared tangoes and 1 clarity. I play Zeus a good bit and I do fine stealing a last hit or two with a deny fake out. that + the extra HP/Mana is worth it. Plus He is a viel hero so if u decide to go viel later there is no better time to get the Talisman then when stats are at their best.
tangos and clarity is the best option you have, amount varies from game to game, mostly i recommend 3 claritys since you're probably gonna need some mana when you finally decide to gank
my personal opinion is to continue doing what u're doing since nobody that posted in this thread has a higher zeus winrate than you. (myself excluded)
Talismans fine for somewhat quite a few matchups if it's hard just go 1clarity into bottle rush
That's the build a 6.5k zeus spammer friend does
Winrate doesn't matter in 2016
U don't go multiple clarities on him if ure bottle rushing cos it delays ur bottle for no reason and now u can't take 2min rune
@Vohiyo
625-100=525
If you start with two clarities you can send Bottle back and get two minute rune.
yea thats true i was mistaken i think
in any case u can send the extra clarities when you bottle crow the 1st time, and you wont be needing 2 clarities before, so you are needlessly delaying the bottle
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alright i didnt state my point clearly, you cant bottle crow once before the 2 min rune
^ yes you can. You can buy Bottle, send it to fountain and get it back in time to get 2 min rune. If you start with 1 Clarity this is 100% achievable, with two you gotta be real fast.
its achievable for sure but there is 0 point in doing so, you can choosesend clarities over during the first bottle crow (<2min) if you want
plus if u start 1 clarity you can get your boots for the 2 min rune in 8 creeps (meaning you choose not to send extra clarities)
Hey guys I picked zeus, bought veil, pressed R and 2 times Q got a rampage OSfrog balanced WutFace balanced #skill #hardwork
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what items do u buy at the start?
i go for talisman + faerie + 2 clarity
but many people say that tali is useless and best starting build is bottle rush
opinions?