HONESTLY I TTHINK MOST OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD ARE BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT WATCH ANIME. WE EVEN DO NOT HAVE A SEPARATE RULE ON DOTABUFF NOT TO PERSECUTE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY WATCH ANIME. IT IS JUST SO SAD
"Homosexuality in humans is not natural. It is a dysfunctional psycology. There are plenty of animals which are naturally homosexual - they can actually switch sexes and reproduce. Some shrimp switch sexes every two weeks when they molt. Some nutibranches are bi-sexual all the time.
Humans are heterosexual. It's a biological fact. People can be confused, deluded, insane or however you want to describe their failing to be attracted to functional sexual partners. But they cannot actually be homosexual. Is does not matter what anyone believes. Is does not matter how you feel about it.
Homosexuality is a mental disease. No religious beliefs, politically correct speech, laws people write or passionate feelings can ever alter that fact."
Ok so what about monogamy and marriage then? Biologically we should be knocking up as many people as possible for the survival of the species. But we don't (I mean some people do, but tons of others subscribe to monogamy out of cultural or religious practice). Cus we live in a culture and society that transcends biology.
What about jews and keeping kosher? It's a biological fact that they can eat shellfish and mix meat and dairy but they don't out of choice.
We wouldn't call people who choose to get married or eat certain foods mentally ill. why call someone who chooses how to express their sexuality, something to which they are much more predisposed than the other examples I made, why call them that?
it shouldn't be too much of a problem anyway as oftentimes anime girls are so hot they can turn you on even when they are fully clothed
and the law is flawed in that regard anyway because our lovely government is trying hard to block all places where they suspect sightings of hentai. they block a lot of stuff for bullshit reasons, however even then, there's much more which isn't blocked. so if you manage to access forbidden content which has been for a while on a website you could say it's not your fault. because there isn't a clear definition of what hentai is, as you can see by how easily everyone avoids censorship in japan by censoring genitalia.
@Yuudachi the Bunny
I think, there must be a victim to call something a crime. If it's robbery, rape, murder or whatever you always can say who is victim. But who is victim when we talk about watching cartoons? This is beyond my understanding...
You can call it whatever you want a play a semantics game. You could say it is sinful or disgusting. You could say it is loving, a personal preference, a social norm, or a legal status.
Homosexual behavior in humans is not natural. It will never be naturally produced. There are ZERO and always will be ZERO people born homosexual.
She could pretend she is a cat. She can believe it. She could convice others to pretend she is a cat. She could change her dress or surgically alter her body. She could get legal status as a cat.... but she will never be a cat.
This man is not a woman:
http://caitlynjenner.com/
Nothing he does or says can make him a woman. His sincere beliefs or deeply felt emotions do not change the facts. His legal status doesn't change it. No matter how many people agree to pretend along with him in his delusion he will not become a woman and has always been a man. He is an insane man. You can come up with whatever term you want to use, but word usage will never alter the fact that he is a man.
In extremely rare cases fraternal twins are conjoined such that one survives and the other, of opposite sex, has some organs retained with the genetics of the opposite sex. I do not know of any cases in which both male and female organs are functional on the body of an individual. But the fact is even in such a hypothetical case, its really two people who are stuck together.
It is likely that almost all tetragametic chimeras die before birth. But occasionally the cells and organs retained from the dead twin are compatible with the living twin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)
Nevertheless even in such a case the living twin is still definatively male or female genetically despite having some part of their twin attached to their body. There is nothing else.
Parents or doctors who are confused about the sex of a child should not rush to a conclusion based on the appearence of undeveloped sex organs on a baby. They should test the childs DNA to determine what parts of the twin were incorperated into the chimera's body. Then it will be easy to decide if the child is a boy or girl despite their deformities.
I am not arguing that it's not natural, I am arguing against using that as a premise to condemn it as a mental disease. A ton of your own behaviors could easily be deemed not natural.
And by the way mental disease IS natural phenomenon anyway. Mutation occurs, well, naturally in many cases. Is addiction natural? Is depression natural? It is to those who have it, it's not like they chose to be addicted or depressed in most cases, although sometimes behavior choices led to those outcomes.
Are you arguing that those who make a "lifestyle choice" to be addicted to ... for instance heroin, should have special rights to be a "heroin lover"? Perhaps instead of regarding heroin addiction as a disease and trying to help people who do it to stop we should encourage them to show off their "heroin addict pride" in parades?
Maybe we should have them come into schools a teach kids that being addicted to heroin is an ok way to live and that no one should judge it wrong. Maybe we should make sure that everyone accepts their friends and relatives heroin addiction and support them in continuing to indulge in it publically and privately.
Personally I think that's crazy. But maybe you think heroin addiction is a legitimate lifestyle choice and will fight for the right to be a proud addict.
What about canibalism as discussed earlier? I think that's insane. But some people think being a canibal, even hunting humans to kill and eat is good. Lots of cultures have accepted it. (Study their history and you might notice they tend to die out as more and more of their people go insane) Prion diseases come from canibalism.
What about pedophelia? I think that's insane. But there are plenty of people who would like to have the same "rights" as homosexuals to have their personal perverse (and insane) habits called natural, loving, legal, etc.
A democratic society must decide what abnormal behaviors it will tolerate. All I am saying is that homosexuality is not natural. It is an aberant behavior. The idea that it is natural is really just a propoganda tool for those that want to promote homosexual behavior and have it become more accepted by societies.
You may wish to not catagorize homosexuality as a mental disease. I think it's quite obvious that it is such. But we could vote on it for the purpose of laws. However, it is a fact that no one is born homosexual. There is no biological basis for the behavior, only a psycological basis.
I personally don't care for homosexual rights. I won't support it because I'm not one, but I won't change my loyalty towards my friends or family because they are homosexual.
I just don't believe the idea of human rights is "universal". Whenever a government extends rights to a population previously maligned, practical concerns and not moral arguments should be the reason. Conversely, if granting too many rights undermines government authority, promotion of values necessary to maintain the population, or social cohesion, then the government, as the expression and protector of the population's will, has every right through propaganda and laws to weaken short-term rights for long-term goals.
It's not worth it anyways, this thread devolved from a serious conversation about serious things to a yell fest where people try to talk over each other.
Kinda like a Republican debate. So I'm deleting my posts and GTFO'ing.
Don't be ridiculous, all of those other things have victims, cannibals kill other people, heroin addicts potentially kill themselves, pedophiles exploit children.
You're very quick to condemn a behavior you find insane. Well what about adulterers? Should that be made illegal as well? Should we censor movies depicting such acts? Should we board up heterosexual strip clubs because they promote a promiscuous lifestyle? Cus Jesus said that was sinful too.
Let he who is without sin throw the first stone. Oh I guess that's you mr perfect relentless, so fire away.
relentless finally showed up and he showed up with a really long "bang" kappa 4head
HONESTLY I TTHINK MOST OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD ARE BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT WATCH ANIME. WE EVEN DO NOT HAVE A SEPARATE RULE ON DOTABUFF NOT TO PERSECUTE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY WATCH ANIME. IT IS JUST SO SAD
BTW, hentai is banned in Russia. 3-10 years in jail for watching. This makes me sad...
Wait a min.
I have a dream one day to immigrate to US.
How bout American dream and land of opportunity?
isn't that only if you distribute it? if you just keep it on your hard drive and don't tell anyone you should be fine
@Yuudachi the Bunny
No, simple watching is enough to go to jail.
lol that's bullshit it's not like someone could catch you watching it and send a video to the police to get you in jail like if you had raped someone
IDK how it works. I guess, internet providers may sell you to police.
"We give each other "well played!" statements, commend each other, laugh at each other's jokes, and work as a team. "
What game is he talking about?
Isn't that violating human rights? XD
Human rights is a myth. =)
^that's reaper's scythe on me.
I wanna reaper a woman's heart tho
"Homosexuality in humans is not natural. It is a dysfunctional psycology. There are plenty of animals which are naturally homosexual - they can actually switch sexes and reproduce. Some shrimp switch sexes every two weeks when they molt. Some nutibranches are bi-sexual all the time.
Humans are heterosexual. It's a biological fact. People can be confused, deluded, insane or however you want to describe their failing to be attracted to functional sexual partners. But they cannot actually be homosexual. Is does not matter what anyone believes. Is does not matter how you feel about it.
Homosexuality is a mental disease. No religious beliefs, politically correct speech, laws people write or passionate feelings can ever alter that fact."
Ok so what about monogamy and marriage then? Biologically we should be knocking up as many people as possible for the survival of the species. But we don't (I mean some people do, but tons of others subscribe to monogamy out of cultural or religious practice). Cus we live in a culture and society that transcends biology.
What about jews and keeping kosher? It's a biological fact that they can eat shellfish and mix meat and dairy but they don't out of choice.
We wouldn't call people who choose to get married or eat certain foods mentally ill. why call someone who chooses how to express their sexuality, something to which they are much more predisposed than the other examples I made, why call them that?
it shouldn't be too much of a problem anyway as oftentimes anime girls are so hot they can turn you on even when they are fully clothed
and the law is flawed in that regard anyway because our lovely government is trying hard to block all places where they suspect sightings of hentai. they block a lot of stuff for bullshit reasons, however even then, there's much more which isn't blocked. so if you manage to access forbidden content which has been for a while on a website you could say it's not your fault. because there isn't a clear definition of what hentai is, as you can see by how easily everyone avoids censorship in japan by censoring genitalia.
"Biologically we should be knocking up as many people as possible" - logic fails here.
Biologically we should take care about our kids, because human kids grow slowly. Monogamy and marriage suits best for that.
@Yuudachi the Bunny
I think, there must be a victim to call something a crime. If it's robbery, rape, murder or whatever you always can say who is victim. But who is victim when we talk about watching cartoons? This is beyond my understanding...
oh I forgot about the russian anti gay homophobe. you and relentless should get a room, but that's probably too gay for you to consider
@soultrap
u r either a female, or wrong. i mean that "logic fails here we should take care of our kids" shit.
Gee...the hate in this forum...
This actually counter OP thread...
Lol jk
You can call it whatever you want a play a semantics game. You could say it is sinful or disgusting. You could say it is loving, a personal preference, a social norm, or a legal status.
Homosexual behavior in humans is not natural. It will never be naturally produced. There are ZERO and always will be ZERO people born homosexual.
In a similar vein:
This woman is not a cat.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/norwegian-woman-cat-trapped-human-body-article-1.2512352
She could pretend she is a cat. She can believe it. She could convice others to pretend she is a cat. She could change her dress or surgically alter her body. She could get legal status as a cat.... but she will never be a cat.
This man is not a woman:
http://caitlynjenner.com/
Nothing he does or says can make him a woman. His sincere beliefs or deeply felt emotions do not change the facts. His legal status doesn't change it. No matter how many people agree to pretend along with him in his delusion he will not become a woman and has always been a man. He is an insane man. You can come up with whatever term you want to use, but word usage will never alter the fact that he is a man.
Now there are people who have parts of someone elses body attached to them. In some cases both conjoined twins survive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K57IcN9DWXo
In other cases only one survives, but retains parts of the other twin. In rare cases reproductive organs from both twins are retained and function such that the dead twin can reproduce although they did not really even survive to be born.
http://www.thehumanmarvels.com/myrtle-corbin-the-four-legged-woman/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lentini
In extremely rare cases fraternal twins are conjoined such that one survives and the other, of opposite sex, has some organs retained with the genetics of the opposite sex. I do not know of any cases in which both male and female organs are functional on the body of an individual. But the fact is even in such a hypothetical case, its really two people who are stuck together.
It is likely that almost all tetragametic chimeras die before birth. But occasionally the cells and organs retained from the dead twin are compatible with the living twin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)
Nevertheless even in such a case the living twin is still definatively male or female genetically despite having some part of their twin attached to their body. There is nothing else.
Parents or doctors who are confused about the sex of a child should not rush to a conclusion based on the appearence of undeveloped sex organs on a baby. They should test the childs DNA to determine what parts of the twin were incorperated into the chimera's body. Then it will be easy to decide if the child is a boy or girl despite their deformities.
I am not arguing that it's not natural, I am arguing against using that as a premise to condemn it as a mental disease. A ton of your own behaviors could easily be deemed not natural.
And by the way mental disease IS natural phenomenon anyway. Mutation occurs, well, naturally in many cases. Is addiction natural? Is depression natural? It is to those who have it, it's not like they chose to be addicted or depressed in most cases, although sometimes behavior choices led to those outcomes.
Are you arguing that those who make a "lifestyle choice" to be addicted to ... for instance heroin, should have special rights to be a "heroin lover"? Perhaps instead of regarding heroin addiction as a disease and trying to help people who do it to stop we should encourage them to show off their "heroin addict pride" in parades?
Maybe we should have them come into schools a teach kids that being addicted to heroin is an ok way to live and that no one should judge it wrong. Maybe we should make sure that everyone accepts their friends and relatives heroin addiction and support them in continuing to indulge in it publically and privately.
Personally I think that's crazy. But maybe you think heroin addiction is a legitimate lifestyle choice and will fight for the right to be a proud addict.
What about canibalism as discussed earlier? I think that's insane. But some people think being a canibal, even hunting humans to kill and eat is good. Lots of cultures have accepted it. (Study their history and you might notice they tend to die out as more and more of their people go insane) Prion diseases come from canibalism.
What about pedophelia? I think that's insane. But there are plenty of people who would like to have the same "rights" as homosexuals to have their personal perverse (and insane) habits called natural, loving, legal, etc.
A democratic society must decide what abnormal behaviors it will tolerate. All I am saying is that homosexuality is not natural. It is an aberant behavior. The idea that it is natural is really just a propoganda tool for those that want to promote homosexual behavior and have it become more accepted by societies.
You may wish to not catagorize homosexuality as a mental disease. I think it's quite obvious that it is such. But we could vote on it for the purpose of laws. However, it is a fact that no one is born homosexual. There is no biological basis for the behavior, only a psycological basis.
@Фантом Рики!!!!!
I don't say that gays commit crime, because they are gays. I say that they are sick.
I think, I said enough, my position is clear, but you keep asking same questions. You just can't agree with anybody on anything, right?
I personally don't care for homosexual rights. I won't support it because I'm not one, but I won't change my loyalty towards my friends or family because they are homosexual.
I just don't believe the idea of human rights is "universal". Whenever a government extends rights to a population previously maligned, practical concerns and not moral arguments should be the reason. Conversely, if granting too many rights undermines government authority, promotion of values necessary to maintain the population, or social cohesion, then the government, as the expression and protector of the population's will, has every right through propaganda and laws to weaken short-term rights for long-term goals.
......
Anyways I'm out of this conversation.
It's not worth it anyways, this thread devolved from a serious conversation about serious things to a yell fest where people try to talk over each other.
Kinda like a Republican debate. So I'm deleting my posts and GTFO'ing.
Don't be ridiculous, all of those other things have victims, cannibals kill other people, heroin addicts potentially kill themselves, pedophiles exploit children.
You're very quick to condemn a behavior you find insane. Well what about adulterers? Should that be made illegal as well? Should we censor movies depicting such acts? Should we board up heterosexual strip clubs because they promote a promiscuous lifestyle? Cus Jesus said that was sinful too.
Let he who is without sin throw the first stone. Oh I guess that's you mr perfect relentless, so fire away.
Relentless
Offtopic: There might be no "heroin addict pride" parades that Relentless talks about, but I'm sure there are 420 parades.
@Dire Wolf
God said: “be fruitful and multiply",- so it's ok here. =)