he can be played both as core and a support
aghs is a legit purchase for the very late game for a supp wraith king in case u r suiciding into throne
so you can Grave a Wraithed ally after they die, and they will respawn with 1hp. that shits imba
Against AM and manaburns, aghs is ultra legit, you can mango or stick and you'll respawn even if you died with 0 mana.
you can also walk over walls for many escapes
also its a highly auboptimal way to deal with manaburn cz u invest 4200 in an item which doesnt give u anything u need besides the ult upgrade, which is not enough for a legit carry's slot
Triplesteal is a fgt IRL but what he said is mostly true
If you are supp wk then why not aghs?
Aghs is core on Overthrow WK however if you dont get aghs I will report you mdfka
investing 4200 (420) into an item which is a Shallow grave for your entire team on death, seems pretty legit to me.
you just give up 1 item slot completely and fall far behind enemy's carry, which is crutial given that wk cant flashfarm and its hard to catch up.
If only there was some kind of hero that could give anyone an aghs sceptre... *sigh
Well generally speaking, my 6 slotted WK build would be along the lines of, Radiance, Mjolnier, Refresher, Blink?, Boots of choice, - Situational slot- (heart, skadi, Blademail, oct, Aghs).. and for me, aghs looks tempting, considering you can refresh while dead from the aghs ulti
shittiest thing ever, buy as 8th slot with alchemist in team 4h3ad.
played against it couple of times = easiest wins of my life
i kinda see it as a 'fail safe' for your shit tier Silencer and shaker that die 90% of the time without casting spells
^its bad because its 4200 when you can just build up something that will be 10x more useful
as wk i always run out of slots so i have to deal with selling dagger, and i don't think i could fit in aghs
get 7 moonshards eat 1 get aghanims bait 1 moonshard to get the kill of your lifetime come back to dotabuff and make a montage out of it
this wk aghs 100% counters duel, i only played a game with wk aghs once but i didnt get a win after they died.
WK aghs is vastly more valuable when you are playing at a level that people will actually keep fighting for the 5 seconds after they die. At low MMRs people don't do anything but maybe a couple autoattacks with the extra life... often they try to run away as they time out.
In a base race situation aghs for WK is almost unstoppable. ALL 5 heroes come back after you kill them and you must fight right then... no choice to back out. Bursting down supports is completely useless, they will still cast their combos no matter what you do.
But the practical reality is that in most pub games it will do nothing but give WK more hp and mp because allies will use it so poorly.
wk aghs is one of the most retarded things i have ever seen in pub games. u kill him, then he returns, u kill him again, he returns again, kills u and then he dies for good. (u dont get xp like wtf)
'something something shit post, something something bad allies, something something low skill' - Relentless
If you cater your thinking to shit allies in your shit pool, you have issues
wk aghs is pretty awful.
6 slotted wk should be treads or boots of travel, abyssal, ac, heart, desolator, bkb. Though blink is pretty core before getting 6 slotted. I'd go for treads, armlet, blink, bkb, basher, ac, abyssal.
In normal/high skill I think he's a better carry. He really is an excellent farmer with just armlet and some points in vamp aura, and his res ability is really op when not countered. At higher levels he gets counter more and can't keep up with better farmers so he's a better support for auras and blink + stun init. I once play vs a dual offlane of wk and sven where sven took the cs in lane. It was god awful for me, two stuns, the vamp aura, they dominated the lane.
No midas in the itemization for carry wk?
I find it helps speed up his exp/farm and keep up with other carries who farm faster, like am and legion.
And no, aghs is not a good item even for support wk. In the support role, he's better off with other utility items to fight / initiate, i.e blink, armlet, maybe bkb. Stuff that would enable him to stay in the fight as long as possible.
Wk's skill set makes him quite a versatile hero.
He can be cycled through different roles, sometimes even within the same game, for example a support transitioning into late game carry.
I once got aghs as carry safelane WK. Was pretty legit in 4k. I mean we had heroes like doom and lion which their ult were very valuable but was constantly getting 1 shotted so i decided to be more corerish and went aghs.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1914887452
Cant remember how many times i killed WD in ghost form myself after dying twice haha. Fun item but gimmicky like LCs aghs.
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So, where does this hero fit. is he a carry, a support?
1-1-4-1 on carry king is my fave, cause it transitions into the jungle pretty quick, however i've seen support kings go 2-4-1, whats the sitch
Doing the Hailrake radiance king is baller and shits on many lineups, however its kinda slow to get the ball rolling.
Is aghs legit? it seems like the best choice when you have big initiators eg. Shaker or magnus and the other team have some way to burst a hero down..
they die, they come back, they fuck you up. However thats a wasted slot on carry king, unless you have some clowny refresher build.
Mechanically wise, i had a shaker in my game before 'suicide' instead of feeding the kill, is that a bug or?
and randomly can an LC die, then duel someone while in reincarnate? cause that shit could be lol