General DiscussionDoom - how to counter the hero which pretty much counters everyone

pray hes a huge retard

even retards get blink/sb/run in at 522 and doom tho

Heroes with healing abilities are helpful to avoid having to deny your ally.
It's generally wise to avoid running around solo vs. Doom if you don't see him on the map; in teamfights he is rather weak.
In my last match a Doom player couldn't get a lot done even with semi-decent farm - I had more damage with Rubick: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1864616147

Meepo,
rek him early, mid and late game, if he happen to have doomed a low HP meepo, meepo can then simply deny himself, even when doom is chasing.

2 ez

try visage vs him. birdies don't care about no scorched earth chase.

push strats are good because healing and 5 manning are strong against doom
everything kitrak mentioned, plus i think meepo and dp are good.

Doom is a targeted spell. Any hero with multiple images should make it much harder for him, though meepo is best counter.

I would say Slark is semi good, but not really, his passive still works even after getting doomed, and doom can't really keep up with how crazy fast slark regens, even ags doom can't do anything against slark's level 3 shadow dance HP regen if he losses vision of him. But maybe he isn't good against him, I don't know. At least he's doom proof for 4 seconds, many times I have gone in on doom, start right clicking him after a pounce, and the moment I see him raising those hands during Doom's cast animation, I shadow dance and doom goes " wait!? What!? Where did he go!? " and cancels the animation, then I keep right clicking him, then just shadow blade if I don't think i'm going to kill him before he can Doom me, or maybe I feel his teammates getting closer and closer to help him, that's my cue to leave cause the kill might be taking too long if he's tanky enough. Yeah ignore what I said, but that's just my little experience using slark against him :P

I would say Slark is semi good, but not really, his passive still works even after getting doomed, and doom can't really keep up with how crazy fast slark regens, even ags doom can't do anything against slark's level 3 shadow dance HP regen if he losses vision of him. But maybe he isn't good against him, I don't know. At least he's doom proof for 4 seconds, many times I have gone in on doom, start right clicking him after a pounce, and the moment I see him raising those hands during Doom's cast animation, I shadow dance and doom goes " wait!? What!? Where did he go!? " and cancels the animation, then I keep right clicking him, then just shadow blade if I don't think i'm going to kill him before he can Doom me, or maybe I feel his teammates getting closer and closer to help him, that's my cue to leave cause the kill might be taking too long if he's tanky enough.

Yeah I had a feeling, but i'm just saying though, it's just my experience with him, especially after he picked Doom, after I pick Slark, there's nothing I can do cause he counters Slark, but I guess Slark does have some defense against him. (the HP regen, I wouldn't pick him against doom to begin with) That's kind of why I said not really at the start of my post.

High skill analysis right there.

Yeah I guess so, i'm not gonna delete the post either, I already knew Slark was bad against him, especially cause of his low HP pool (and other reasons but alright, let's pretend I didn't know that, get your laughs out. >.>

i guess if doom has aghs, slark's passive doesnt work
also, doom is one of the best counters for slark

Buy linken spere and you counter doom ulti.

it depends.

any non-retard doom will pop linkens with level death - it helps but itsn't really a hard counter

Illusion heroes wreck Doom. His Armour is also so low before he gets items that you can kill him easy early on if you have good disables.

Wisp. He`ll be forced to pop doom on a hardsupport or well .. let doom to waste bcuz you can outheal the doom damage even through aghanims.

DP. You can kill him even with level 8 dp with ult under enemy tower

Lycan is decent. PL is good if you already have an illusion army. CK also very good if you manage to pop ulti.

pick mapo

Wraith king needs to have a word with doom.

oh yea dusa chan is solid too it hink

Doom can be only countered by Doom

Lifestealer with AgS can eat doomed teammate. I guess he can't die inside you, right? =)

Lotus Orb and Linkens Sphere

But really, basically you create a lot of doomable targets for him or you disable him before he can even doom. (The cast animation on that thing is so bad)

wk hailrake style, whats a doom?

pick him yourself

Just don't fucking feed him early. If he is offlane 1v2, when he pops hellfire run like hell. Stun him and beat it. Give up farm in that lane. Cus he falls off if he can't snowball.

Also pick high physical dmg carries. Doom severely lacks for armor, unless he eats a frosty ogre he is squishy without hellfire up. A lane like troll or wraith king + lion or cm vs an offlane doom should be able to win for example or at least not feed him.

Just pick doom first

pick pl and wish him good luck in dooming you.

None retarded ppl can pick out the real one

For example;
Aghanims - Shivas - Assault - Octarine - Silver Edge - Boots of Travel
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3600 HP and 37.8 armor...
Octarine will provide a huge amount of hp regen.
Aghanims will apply Break.
Also, Silver Edge can be help to stop the countdown with decent movement speed when activated.
Sure, Sange&Yasha can be built as well instead of Assault or Silver Edge. Or Refresher can be a good choice, too.
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You can not use a passive reliant hero to go up against Aghs Doom if can get to use the ulti.
WK can be killed before Doom uses ulti or there can be Refresher on Doom.
The thing about Doom, you need to outrun him if he has Aghs or never let him use the ulti. The best way I can think of is not giving the chance to use ulti. A good stun and manabreak to not let him use the ulti.
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Yeah, try Octarine Core. :D / 75 secs cooldown and 20 hp regen...

i wanna try octarine.

how the fuck does doom fall off lmao, once he gets refresher then ure not playing 4v5 anymore, its 3v5

ah so basically take advantage of his low armor (slardar etc), get ample vision around him (bm, ns) or be immune to ult (abba, wk).

his scorched earth is just ridiculous now just played against it, he literally runs under tower no shits given lol

if doom rushes blink, aghs, refresher then he is literally worthless beyond that, his right click will suck, his armor will suck, helfire will keep him alive in lane but not in a fight where your carries three shot him. So you have a really good window to take advantage of between aghs and refresher. Plus no bkb, if he blinks in to ult someone, cc and blow him the fuck up before he can cast refresher and doom a second high priority target.

Thats whg you get shivas between aghs and refresher

BeastMaster and Drow..

u have issues lol, u get SHIVAS after aghs (if u need it u might not even want to get it lols) and then refresher, and if they blow everything on u ur cores take care of the rest of the fight. plus doom doesnt even die that easily unless u have lots of magic damage

my experience against doom is to pick Chen ! whoever gets doomed i send him ASAP to base, eventually doom will start dooming a chen and doing nothing but dog shit :D

Use fog of war to your advantage. Guy still has a 50 year cast point on his ulti and can be kited. Also Skywraith takes a giant shit on Doom.

Yo guys, there is a point you didn't get. Doom is usually a position 3 and can play offlane or jungle/trilane roaming. He can reach 500+GPM without taking any resource as a position 3. Traditional position 3 heroes like sb or clockwork will never get boot+midas+aghs+invis in only 20 minutes...

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