I literally don't think, that there are any other carry players on this planet, who are as good at finding farm as EE is.
I have a feeling OP doesn't know himself what he's basing it on. It's just hatred. I'm sure we're gonna get a "LOOK AT HIS DRAFT IN GAME TWO WTF?"
Probably he went to reddit and realized it wasn't even him drafting 
Well, EE isn't that good, but he is smart, and he achieves nicely thx to that.
I still wonder how he could kick aui out. aui is arguably in top 5 dota players....
That's actually true though. XBOCT and EE get all the shit, but you see them finding farm from fucking nowhere.
your ass should be kicked, kappa
ee is a good player (altho a terrible person with awful streams, hehe)
well its hard whrn you have bone322 drafting on top of him having a core role. Everyone knew c9 was fucked when they didnt kick out 322bone, its just that they lost sooner :p
Bone 7 was the one drafting....
Imho, bone has been the weak link for over a year, but EE kicked ppd and aui instead. c9's issue is consistency, drafting, and leadership. EE's carry and game sense is fine. They need a reliable offlaner, and a team leader.
@matrice - I think Aui getting kicked was an issue of in game command and personalities, not his skill level or playstyle. When Aui first went to EG, Ppd said the hardest part was getting used to the fact that Aui likes to talk during matches on mic a lot. Before Aui coming to EG, it was mostly just PPD talking, with other players making calls etc. AUI will apparently actively theorycraft and suggest stuff mid game, more than just "stun him" or missing. I would imagine that EE and maybe others felt that Aui's communication was hindering the team rather than benefiting. This is especially true when you consider that EE said that they had a problem where everyone would talk at game start, but when the game went badly everyone went silent. If you are gonna be a guy that talks a lot, you cant stop communicating when your team makes mistakes. It causes imbalance.
EE is the ideal carry, does his thing, and will stealth farm out of nowhere even in horrible situations. He needs the right chain of command for this to work and I don't think that any of the current roster is bad just perhaps not synergizing as well as they could be due to personality differences.
The scene just lacks good captains. There aren't many good captains right now and this really seems to hurt most teams.
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agree. Fear is a good capitano though. but what do we expect.. these guys are not guys - they are premature boys. Drama and dick-gaming is normal in that age.
Agreed. I think some of the support players aren't confident enough to be captains and the mid/carries aren't engaged enough into "bigger picture" to be captains.
There are some good ones though.
Fear? You mean PPD? The boy within the lowest individual skill in the scene yet so succesful? Is that the boy you're talking about? The mastermind? I'm sure he's not called fear.
no, i dont mean ppd. Fear used to be captain of eg, but isnt this year. correct. anyways, im pretty sure though that he leads the team in one way or the other. He just has daddy genes.
ppd is just the fake EG captain, ppd called fear second in command but everyone knows fear controls the team and ppd only picks, with a little input from fear and previous developed tactics
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every reality is someone's, there is no such thing as objective truth, everything depends on one's perception. the sound of antree falling in an absolutely empty forest could either exist or not, it doesnt matter cz it doesnt affect anything, so we can simply assume that it didnt.
Ppd and Aui apparently talk more in game than Fear, but the reality is we don't have enough in game coms to know who is calling what the most. Can't really say how much in game leadership Fear is providing.
"i could captain them to win TI6 though"
never change brah
Hasn't everyone on c9 operated as a drafter in a tourney at least once for the this year?
Either way c9 look like a team that is just jinxed to screw up and I would say it would be hard to not be in their heads.
the sound of a tree falling in an absolutely empty forest doesn't exist because it is considered as sound only when someone hears it
@arin
sound is actually a certain air vibration which does not depend on the existence of a spectator
its a philosophical and metaphorical question not related to physics focused on whether something that doesnt affect ur reality in any way should be considered or not. like, f.e. aliens might exist, but if we wont ever meet them, then they doesnt exist in our subjective world.
what we call "real world" is what we consider to be real, but the realities of all human beings are different to each other; thing such as objective perception of reality doesnt exist cz perception is subjective by-default.
Did you see misery decreping himself every time he was targeted by assassinate or just when rocket barraged? C9 is just very clowny overall, not only EE and bone.
^While he did that, the outcome wouldn't change at all so it's just stupid to bring it up.
It's like saying a player suck at dota cause he missed a Lion stun, when that's completely irrelevant to players skill. ( I mean, unless you're 4k and miss a lion stun )
@triple yes, but it is recognized as sound only after getting into our ear and brain, otherwise it's just that air vibration
at least i've read this in some physics book some time ago but i might have forgotten half of it so dont take me seriously
thats true, our brain perceives certain kinds of air vibration as sound, it is kind of making A (input, vibration) -> B (output, what our mind gets - sound). Sound theorically doesnt exist separate to mind, but commonly air vibrations are called "sound" as well.
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thank god they lost, serves him right for kicking singsing