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General DiscussionStorm and Orchid.

Storm and Orchid. in General Discussion
nami

    I just want to get this out there.

    Contrary to popular belief, you get Orchid when you have a good start and go Bloodstone when you have a bad start. Orchid is useless if you can only get it at the 20+ min mark. It makes it incredibly hard to snowball if you get it this late. Whereas if you go Bloodstone, early soulring lets farm a lot faster when combined with a bottle and early pointbooster+vitbooster gives great survivability.

    TripleSteal-

      oh, thanks a lot, much helpful info, wow
      kappa

      bibi

        This is genius tread.

        lm ao

          ^Storm Spirit used to be in least played hero bracket

          Ayyy lmaoooo

          Welt aus Eis

            it depends on the game

            lm ao
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              nami

                @sano

                well yeah this thread is basically saying it depends on the game, some people go orchid no matter what

                ф

                  Bloodstone first if ur behind cuz it helps u farm. Bloodstone first when ur ahead so you can snowball with charges. keepo

                  Welt aus Eis

                    what I've seen recently is the other way around, people are always going for Bloodstone

                    (myself included, and I'm aware this is a mistake)

                    Nyo-ho

                      I should start a business with Storm coaching ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

                      Metallicize

                        http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1645233498

                        ty for coaching aimstrong-sama ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

                        braindead
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                          Gotvet

                            wtf orchid storm. THat's so bad. I ussually get skadi first.

                            конторский

                              and all this time i was making bloodstone without orchid.. what a fool, thanks for enlightening me.

                              Gotvet

                                rapira fisrt is better

                                Filthy

                                  I never really tried storm , if I was to try a new mid hero should I try Lesh , storm , qop? Other ?

                                  Last picking is 4 pussies

                                    ^----you probably should try those as those are standard kids right now and if your a mid probably need to play them so you also can know their weaknesses for when your against them.

                                    Look at me, Hector.

                                      its funny how sub 6.5k retards give tips and opinions on social medias when they're not good at the game

                                      you dont see this happen in fighting game communities or anywhere

                                      but its always in Dota 2?

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                                      Look at me, Hector.

                                        btw i thought naked boots shivas was the best item build on storm

                                        bibi

                                          Wouldnt eul be better than bs if you are having a bad start and you know theyre building orchids?

                                          Nyo-ho

                                            No, only if there are counters to Storm like Earth Sprit, Sky, Silencer, NS and Disruptor (Sumail's way)
                                            But if their hero really snowballs and goes for Orchid then the answear is yes. But a BKB is still a better defensive item and it provides HP

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                                            Welt aus Eis

                                              no, bkb first item is absolutely garbage

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                                              Kryptnyt
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                                                nami

                                                  BKB second or third item is still garbage. At that stage an Eul's provides way more utility and you don't give up a charge everytime to get rid of one silence. It also means when you do eventually get BKB, you have the 10 seconds at the crucial late game.

                                                  You only really get it on Storm situationally in the very late game against something like a refresher silencer.

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                                                  Pom Pom 🍕

                                                    Won't you need bkb against disruptor ult, riki smoke and mass disable heroes (shadow shaman, lion, earthshaker)? How do you build against those heroes as storm?

                                                    nami

                                                      The reason you don't get BKB early is because as a Storm you can always pick when to enter fights if you position yourself properly. If the enemy does something like refusing to cast their disables, then good for your team lol because a minimum of two people have to do this. Otherwise you can zip in and vortex the one guy holding his skills back. You get more leeway with this if you have an Euls or Linkens.

                                                      Once late game happens though this sometimes isn't an option anymore since your rax is at stake and not some t1/t2 tower and you HAVE to enter the fight forcefully instead of waiting.

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