General DiscussionThe feeling of having 94% winrate. On 2 accounts.

i carried him

the feeling when u have an account where you play only party

abused winrate is not a kind of thing one could be proud of. neitehr winrate in general is.

I supported him

I believed in him

I fed him

I touched him in the secret place

How is it abused in anyway though? I have no idea :/

its not abused its just stacking on unranked mm

any intentional way to avoid being placed in queue with ppl of your level and either playing with worse or better opponents is called abusing.

There is no one on the same level of V-GOD so he's technically always abusing #kappa

true. but, pls explain TripleSteal-'s bitterness :D

I love him

no its not

if i'm 8k mmr theres no way of queueing with people of my level, if i decide to find a match im an abuser then?

hes just playing with his friends whats wrong with that

well
i mean, winrate on given acc is bullshit
afaik, vroksnak achieved smthng which rly matter in the world of dota (winrate does not): high mmr (someone told me he got to 7k?), and he also played in GOL, which performed well enough to be called a strong team. It shows he's a great player, while winrate of 94% shows nothing except that he spent a long while on achieving more or less senseless number and position in dotabuff top which is not the most popular/relevant one.

it should be a nice feeling :DDDD

@sano
should i provide mathematical basis to support the statement that you cant fairly achieve 90% winrate given the existing MM system? I thought thats kind of.. obvious, isnt it?

unranked = abuse okay then
so anyone who has >50% wr = abuse??

unranked has hidden mmr working same way as ranked one does

if your stack is too strong you wont meet your equal, ez 80-90% winrate how is that abuse?
you get the same shit in ranked mm with +5/-5 too .. so stack = abuse?

is there any way to check it somehow?

there should be. or else i file suit against icefrog.

^triple star
ye, thats a good idea, didnt think about that

how to abuse party mmr / party winrate

step 1) become a good player.
step 2) find very good friends to queue with.
step 3) make sure your friends are rated 2000 mmr lower than you.
step 4) make sure your friends are ACTUALLY at your level.
step 5) suddenly 6k vs. 3k games. wow! ez life.

look @ his dire/radiant played games ratio and have in mind he played alot of lev 1 rosh games = zZz ggwp

Actually not true. If you are the higher rated stack you are usually Dire.

@sano
should i provide mathematical basis to support the statement that you cant fairly achieve 90% winrate given the existing MM system? I thought thats kind of.. obvious, isnt it?

ok provide me

its obvious that if you have a 5 stack consisting of 6k players in unranked russia there will be no other stack that strong, so MM will be forced to match you with a weaker stack, meaning ez win for vrok's stack

triplesteal right now

it is abused on russian low priority servers a while ago

atleast on 1 acc

@sano
triple loli star alrdy told about that, and i agreed on such a possibility, i jsut didnt think about highr ated 5 stacks problems.

link to accounts?

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/winning

Normal MM - 532 games
Ranked MM - 3 games
Wow, so fucking hard to stomp trash noobs in normal matchmaking. Teach me Vrok-Sama please.

someones mad
V-GOD has better stuff to do than teach u kid

Unranked mmr does not work the same way that's fucking bullshit. Also CLQ still dumpsters v-god

^if you perform better than ppl in ur (unranked) bracket, ur unranked mmr grows, if vice versa, it falls. more wins lead to higher mmr, losses - to lower. am i mistaking?

no1 plays unranked other than abusers and peopl;e who are udner lvl 13

^

hi

Unranked= practice mode. The reason unranked mmr is bullshit is that it factors in KDA I could be in a VHS game have a shitty k/d/a and still win but be put in a lower bracket or vice versa lose and have a godlike KDA and be put in a higher bracket. That's honestly a fucking joke

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/174733177/activity

I see a red dot there.

hi Vrok-sama

unranked russia + low priority

if you 5 man stack in unranked russia, you will queue for 10+ minutes and face solo queue players (rarely stacks) and the players there are either new to the game or they're at 2k/3k mmr. it was different before ranked came out but nobody plays unranked now that ranked is out so thats why vroksnak is 5 stacking in unranked to artificially increase his winrate.

they also turn dotabuff on and off when they're about to lose, one good example is http://www.dotabuff.com/players/123447796
this player got 4-5 pages of normal/high skill games, a little bit suspicious for someone who claims to be 6k (cough sandboxie south africa)?
he turns off dotabuff to bring down his hidden mmr and ranked mmr so he can bring up his winrate.

p.s none of these players are good, ive played with them and they were always awful and when i played against their stack and while they solo queued, it was one of the easiest wins for me. coincidence? i wonder if vroksnak here still whines about lag in all chat when he gets stomped 99% of the times he solo queues?

^_^

"w-we play unranked russia because of lower ping! its not like we'll get dumpstered in europe west, haha right??"

hey chris do you still try to bribe and pm random people on reddit like you did last year? fucking degenerate

@fuwafuwa

You are hated. Now.

ok i spent 15 seconds looking at their last 20 matches or so and here are some of their enemies dotabuffs

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/100115940
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/114654213
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/107453120
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/186265891
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/112553451
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/55514097

borderline high skill/very high skill players, i'd say these players mmr is 3500~
how is it possible to lose vs these players in this bracket when u pick broken heroes, look at ur fucking unsubstantial kda too. what a disgrace

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/222765026
i lost 4 times on my smurf when i solo queued in unranked eu west but these fucking mo ngoloids lose to drunk russians in unranked russia with broken tier heroes, conspiracy illuminati!?

Even tho I don't like wave he is totally right. Anyone could do what he did, I'm surprised no 99% win rate Keepo.