es mid doesnt really match up well against necrophos apparently
judging from the graphs one bad teamfight and thats all it really took for their team to snowball.
I wonder if Crimson Guard was really the right item in your Axe game. They mostly hit hard in a few hits, so you don't get a lot out of the damage block, whereas their SF, CM, and Batrider had a lot of magic damage to block.
a really late BS for SS, but considering the lineup of the other team i dont think i cant be helped to euls first.. lockdown lineup/silence/mana burn, almost everything that is counter to SS. good job at not dying a lot.
Looks like that huskar jumped to death at every opportunity he could, sven eventually got really fat and you could no longer do anything, despite having best HG defense in the game (sniper + pudge + enigma). Your plays didn't have much impact probably because you had to babysit that huskar since you had a jungle enigma and huskar fed really hard anyways. Bad game.
Seems like you died a lot (which is bad) but considering how much vision you've bought I guess it's kinda fine, since you could not afford to get any defensive items, considering you're ogre and can't farm on the side no matter what, it's kind of a difficult situation, especially considering you and tiny lost the safelane (not that you've had much of a chance against viper, though).
Actually, considering their lineup, you would've been better off geting a ghost scepter than aether lens, you probably would've had the chance to use more spells by surviving anyways, or maybe getting a force staff vs riki. You won so it's kinda okay, but dying 14 times, even if you are spending so much money on wards is still kinda bad, you needed to stand the fuck back most of the game.
Uh, you won against a team that had 2 guys who were afk or something, necro got tilted and abandoned?
I don't know what I would have done differently in that match, considering that I don't know how long each hero was in the game, which would certainly color your item choices. I probably would've gone BKB and AC, but it seems your build worked just fine in that game (also LC had AC).
I assume you guys ganked the shit out of Invoker. PA and Lich proved too strong in lane, plus your damage (building and otherwise) in the game was pretty high! Lich transitioning to a semi carry after the +150 damage talent seems like the course of the meta these days? All in all a really well played game, my friend.
I didn't actually gank anyone in the first 12-13 minutes of the game, I just sat in lane, shat on this timbersaw, then PA built an orchid, and continued to shit on people who had no answer to it at the time. I was triggered by MK not getting a BKB, but with glimmer and force I managed to keep him alive enough times that he isn't instantly dead every fight. This MoM + Hurricane pike thing on Lich isn't really that smart, if I have money for that, I should have got a hex, but I wasn't very confident in my PA actually hitting buildings (or MK surviving), so I decided to ensure that buildings die. Don't do this, though, it's dumb, get hex if you have that kind of money (hell, an euls is better than this stupid shit).
Anyways, your game:
First I wanted to say your farm is oddly low (221 last hits) for a game of that length, considering you picked Invoker. That being said, it seems you farmed people instead of creeps, which is probably what I'd prefer to do in your bracket as well, so it was a good choice.
That Sven got really fat, so he was the lategame insurance you didn't really need that much (but was nice to have). I find it weird that you went Atos before aghs, but I sometimes see people going orchid against very silence-prone heroes like QoP and Storm, but I am not an invoker player so I don't really know if it's good or they are bad.
^ I played QW. On QE I can reach 600 gpm most games, but with QW I find it impossible try as I might :/ Thanks for your kind analysis. I'll still try MoM lich one of these days for sure xD
Oh, I didn't even look at your skill build, I just assumed it was QE. That kinda makes sense, aside from "why the fuck would you play QW D:" but I am no Invoker player, so I don't know why you'd go for that or not, I just know it is very frowned upon.
And as I said, MoM-Pike Lich might be fun, but it's a terrible idea in general, the build is kinda throwy I think.
He had a hood, wasn't going pipe tho.
Veno was an issue before I had pipe
Crimson just for the tb? I'd rather go straight aghs if necro bought pipe. Lotus makes for sense, doesn't it? Prevent the sunder from ruining us
So the build up to pipe is good, however instead of aghs u shud have gone lotus or halberd
even force staff is good
also why did u complete wand at 17 min lol
also i wud have roamed more on mid, zeus is super weak to ganks
tbh anything that keeps ur clinx alive this game is good, so aghs wud not have been my item
also try to die less, ur rather elusive with ur active flying ability and considering how hard clinx stomped i think u shud have avoided death more
either way gg wp for u
A FeelsGood sven game where everything went well and you got some sweet +25.
I am not sure about that linkens though, it does make you stronger out of BKB, but they have enough ways to pop it. Still, you only died 3 times so I guess building defensive in order not to feed is okay. I probably would've gone orchid since all of their heroes are really weak to silences, though, but you did great with the tanky build too. No need to silence people if you can just kill them, I guess.
I honestly have no idea how you have 0 deaths against that lineup WITHOUT EVEN GETTING A BKB. Positioning god, great disables on your team or they are all really bad? I would probably go for bloodthorn if I played against puck, but seeing as a puck with a good game would go linkens, and a puck with a bad game would be useless, it doesn't really seem like you need it. Essentially it looks like they neither had ways to break the refraction, or deal much burst damage if they did, so you had a walk in the park.
Great HD, TD and good farming (even with so many kills).
after 7 consecutive ranked losses you finally get your revenge!
I would've gone for butter over AC but you did a great job of not dying against heroes who can kite you quite easily (sniper, invoker, pa dagger), basically solo carried your team
Holy shit that tower damage, seems like you got real value out of your ult! You died only 5 times (which is ONLY for a shaman), looks like you've had a somewhat rough early game since you were probably underleveled and didn't have much gold to work with (only completing arcanes 14 minutes into the game) but after that you didn't go greedy for aghs, getting glimmer and force instead. Overall a solid shaman game.
(anyone commenting on my lich game - I do have boots, but I sold tranquils and bought travels so they were in stash)
Semi carry lich. Looks exciting. You looked starved for gold early on. I don't really care much for your item build. Lich is a lane winner so you seemed to have made life easy for your carry.
Well you guys outdrafted them big time, slark had no chance against viper/sven in his lane. Looks like it helped you be free and get roaming kills. Good job. Easy game.
Solar crest on DK? I Guess that's weird, but it worked apparently. You went with a tanky build I have not seen before, but it does make some sense if you manly want to soak damage. HP is bad against lifestealer, while armor is great, so that's one thing to note as well. Pipe makes your whole team hard to take down, BKB and 60 armor makes you really hard to burst down with their heroes so I guess it works, also you were an offlane DK which isn't that common but it can work.
I guess you went with an unorthodox hero position and item build but you had an idea.
PT over Phase is the correct boots choice here given the lineup. Veil, which is somewhat core on Necro, is important against their lineup. Hmm... I guess Necro is broken, he fits well versus the dire lineup, and you stomped the game.
Level 25 gpm talent kicked in quite early it seems?
30 sentries bought as mid puck, not swapping the mana boots out - interesting priorities.
Also, why didn't you go offlane and let the od take mid? Imo puck deals better with sven kunkka while od can still lane well vs pugna, maxing trap first
your item build just throws me off
considering how hard a shaman and veno can deathball down lanes i dont get why u wud get midas
also what purpose does blink have, if you jump into the enemy team ur getting completely chain stunned
linkens and bkb seem needed here
solar crest, halberd, ac, all seem like good alternatives to items u bought as well
but who cares since u won lane, since ur against a solo lion LMAO
either way u won so gg
You played my fav hero :) and just rekt your enemies even though I guess you agree it is hard to win as Skywrath Mage if your team gets behind. Well played and carried! GJ!
Your last 2 sky games have exactly the same stats wut haha. Pretty good for roaming though but the aghs could have been substituted for things that could have helped you and your tean survive being jumped by ursa, but hey you won so it all worked out hehe. You didnt really need the damage from aghs cause your team had enough damage I think and ok control
your item build just throws me off
considering how hard a shaman and veno can deathball down lanes i dont get why u wud get midas
also what purpose does blink have, if you jump into the enemy team ur getting completely chain stunned
linkens and bkb seem needed here
solar crest, halberd, ac, all seem like good alternatives to items u bought as well
but who cares since u won lane, since ur against a solo lion LMAO
either way u won so gg
i was grouped with a 1.3k play, average 1.8k game. you cant expect to finish a game quick with an offlane razor rushing radiance and 3 players running straight into the jungle after every single fight :)
why bkb? linkens makes sense dude. should have bought it probably.
i was never really in a defensive position. ppl ran away from me, thats why blink pike and skadi over defensive tools.
Nice spectre game, gj the refresher pick up seems like one of those plays you do because you can cause you’re so far ahead as a spectre. Looks like you had fun running them over with your spectre.
You destroyed their mid gg.
es mid doesnt really match up well against necrophos apparently
judging from the graphs one bad teamfight and thats all it really took for their team to snowball.
I wonder if Crimson Guard was really the right item in your Axe game. They mostly hit hard in a few hits, so you don't get a lot out of the damage block, whereas their SF, CM, and Batrider had a lot of magic damage to block.
a really late BS for SS, but considering the lineup of the other team i dont think i cant be helped to euls first.. lockdown lineup/silence/mana burn, almost everything that is counter to SS. good job at not dying a lot.
good Lane efficiency and Skillshots landed
cannt reach sniper in the end
A very easy game I guess. Nice gpm on rubick. Rubick was a great pick here too. Your team's draft craps on theirs tbh.
Your team lost all lanes (but won jungle lul)
Looks like that huskar jumped to death at every opportunity he could, sven eventually got really fat and you could no longer do anything, despite having best HG defense in the game (sniper + pudge + enigma). Your plays didn't have much impact probably because you had to babysit that huskar since you had a jungle enigma and huskar fed really hard anyways. Bad game.
An effective core pick against their lineup with very respectable tower and hero damage. Gpm and total net worth are good too.
Seems like you died a lot (which is bad) but considering how much vision you've bought I guess it's kinda fine, since you could not afford to get any defensive items, considering you're ogre and can't farm on the side no matter what, it's kind of a difficult situation, especially considering you and tiny lost the safelane (not that you've had much of a chance against viper, though).
Actually, considering their lineup, you would've been better off geting a ghost scepter than aether lens, you probably would've had the chance to use more spells by surviving anyways, or maybe getting a force staff vs riki. You won so it's kinda okay, but dying 14 times, even if you are spending so much money on wards is still kinda bad, you needed to stand the fuck back most of the game.
Good kda, good denies, good building damage, good overall bs game.
FOR WHOEVER DOES MINE: Look at the sf game, not the abaddon game, please.
Uh, you won against a team that had 2 guys who were afk or something, necro got tilted and abandoned?
I don't know what I would have done differently in that match, considering that I don't know how long each hero was in the game, which would certainly color your item choices. I probably would've gone BKB and AC, but it seems your build worked just fine in that game (also LC had AC).
I assume you guys ganked the shit out of Invoker. PA and Lich proved too strong in lane, plus your damage (building and otherwise) in the game was pretty high! Lich transitioning to a semi carry after the +150 damage talent seems like the course of the meta these days? All in all a really well played game, my friend.
I didn't actually gank anyone in the first 12-13 minutes of the game, I just sat in lane, shat on this timbersaw, then PA built an orchid, and continued to shit on people who had no answer to it at the time. I was triggered by MK not getting a BKB, but with glimmer and force I managed to keep him alive enough times that he isn't instantly dead every fight. This MoM + Hurricane pike thing on Lich isn't really that smart, if I have money for that, I should have got a hex, but I wasn't very confident in my PA actually hitting buildings (or MK surviving), so I decided to ensure that buildings die. Don't do this, though, it's dumb, get hex if you have that kind of money (hell, an euls is better than this stupid shit).
Anyways, your game:
First I wanted to say your farm is oddly low (221 last hits) for a game of that length, considering you picked Invoker. That being said, it seems you farmed people instead of creeps, which is probably what I'd prefer to do in your bracket as well, so it was a good choice.
That Sven got really fat, so he was the lategame insurance you didn't really need that much (but was nice to have). I find it weird that you went Atos before aghs, but I sometimes see people going orchid against very silence-prone heroes like QoP and Storm, but I am not an invoker player so I don't really know if it's good or they are bad.
Overall, you did pretty well.
^ I played QW. On QE I can reach 600 gpm most games, but with QW I find it impossible try as I might :/ Thanks for your kind analysis. I'll still try MoM lich one of these days for sure xD
Oh, I didn't even look at your skill build, I just assumed it was QE. That kinda makes sense, aside from "why the fuck would you play QW D:" but I am no Invoker player, so I don't know why you'd go for that or not, I just know it is very frowned upon.
And as I said, MoM-Pike Lich might be fun, but it's a terrible idea in general, the build is kinda throwy I think.
Noob Invoker
Snowball/10
pipe makes sense this game, you kill them constantly, you win game
an exemplary stomp, win lane -> win game!
Not even a stomp rofl
First i was like dafuq is this itembuild
Then i saw clinkz like 30/5 and it makes sense to me
Also, viper pugna and necro on one team? Come on!
Should've gotten crimson guard or AC since Necro was going hood.
He had a hood, wasn't going pipe tho.
Veno was an issue before I had pipe
Crimson just for the tb? I'd rather go straight aghs if necro bought pipe. Lotus makes for sense, doesn't it? Prevent the sunder from ruining us
So the build up to pipe is good, however instead of aghs u shud have gone lotus or halberd
even force staff is good
also why did u complete wand at 17 min lol
also i wud have roamed more on mid, zeus is super weak to ganks
tbh anything that keeps ur clinx alive this game is good, so aghs wud not have been my item
also try to die less, ur rather elusive with ur active flying ability and considering how hard clinx stomped i think u shud have avoided death more
either way gg wp for u
A FeelsGood sven game where everything went well and you got some sweet +25.
I am not sure about that linkens though, it does make you stronger out of BKB, but they have enough ways to pop it. Still, you only died 3 times so I guess building defensive in order not to feed is okay. I probably would've gone orchid since all of their heroes are really weak to silences, though, but you did great with the tanky build too. No need to silence people if you can just kill them, I guess.
WP lich support trying to transent to carry
wow really nice TA game!! 1k XPM!? keep it up
I honestly have no idea how you have 0 deaths against that lineup WITHOUT EVEN GETTING A BKB. Positioning god, great disables on your team or they are all really bad? I would probably go for bloodthorn if I played against puck, but seeing as a puck with a good game would go linkens, and a puck with a bad game would be useless, it doesn't really seem like you need it. Essentially it looks like they neither had ways to break the refraction, or deal much burst damage if they did, so you had a walk in the park.
Great HD, TD and good farming (even with so many kills).
150dmg talent for life :D
Good supporting anyway, I go for pike on lich whenever l reach 20, too
Value point into W might have been gud at lvl 4
i duuno solar crest is that good on dk but overall good job
after 7 consecutive ranked losses you finally get your revenge!
I would've gone for butter over AC but you did a great job of not dying against heroes who can kite you quite easily (sniper, invoker, pa dagger), basically solo carried your team
Holy shit that tower damage, seems like you got real value out of your ult! You died only 5 times (which is ONLY for a shaman), looks like you've had a somewhat rough early game since you were probably underleveled and didn't have much gold to work with (only completing arcanes 14 minutes into the game) but after that you didn't go greedy for aghs, getting glimmer and force instead. Overall a solid shaman game.
(anyone commenting on my lich game - I do have boots, but I sold tranquils and bought travels so they were in stash)
Semi carry lich. Looks exciting. You looked starved for gold early on. I don't really care much for your item build. Lich is a lane winner so you seemed to have made life easy for your carry.
Well you guys outdrafted them big time, slark had no chance against viper/sven in his lane. Looks like it helped you be free and get roaming kills. Good job. Easy game.
Abandoned low prio game? I guess there's not much to tell
Solar crest on DK? I Guess that's weird, but it worked apparently. You went with a tanky build I have not seen before, but it does make some sense if you manly want to soak damage. HP is bad against lifestealer, while armor is great, so that's one thing to note as well. Pipe makes your whole team hard to take down, BKB and 60 armor makes you really hard to burst down with their heroes so I guess it works, also you were an offlane DK which isn't that common but it can work.
I guess you went with an unorthodox hero position and item build but you had an idea.
I don't think transitioning into hitter with a Lich as a 5 position support is a good idea. Might as well get utility items with that much gold.
PT over Phase is the correct boots choice here given the lineup. Veil, which is somewhat core on Necro, is important against their lineup. Hmm... I guess Necro is broken, he fits well versus the dire lineup, and you stomped the game.
is that how kids play tb these days?
well it worked out somehow, you did well. altho only 20k net in a 40min match.
guess you were mid?
Nice Venom on the safelane. And as a core beside a SS. Well played I might try him as well as pos 1.
good choice build on winter wyvern
don't forget buy gem for ur team
Level 25 gpm talent kicked in quite early it seems?
30 sentries bought as mid puck, not swapping the mana boots out - interesting priorities.
Also, why didn't you go offlane and let the od take mid? Imo puck deals better with sven kunkka while od can still lane well vs pugna, maxing trap first
your item build just throws me off
considering how hard a shaman and veno can deathball down lanes i dont get why u wud get midas
also what purpose does blink have, if you jump into the enemy team ur getting completely chain stunned
linkens and bkb seem needed here
solar crest, halberd, ac, all seem like good alternatives to items u bought as well
but who cares since u won lane, since ur against a solo lion LMAO
either way u won so gg
You played my fav hero :) and just rekt your enemies even though I guess you agree it is hard to win as Skywrath Mage if your team gets behind. Well played and carried! GJ!
Your last 2 sky games have exactly the same stats wut haha. Pretty good for roaming though but the aghs could have been substituted for things that could have helped you and your tean survive being jumped by ursa, but hey you won so it all worked out hehe. You didnt really need the damage from aghs cause your team had enough damage I think and ok control
low farm for such a duration, good thing he bought gem, rare to see someone in this mmr even knowing this item exists.
rekt/10 gj man
i was grouped with a 1.3k play, average 1.8k game. you cant expect to finish a game quick with an offlane razor rushing radiance and 3 players running straight into the jungle after every single fight :)
why bkb? linkens makes sense dude. should have bought it probably.
i was never really in a defensive position. ppl ran away from me, thats why blink pike and skadi over defensive tools.
looks like any standard slardar game tbh..
nothing special about that match
Nice spectre game, gj the refresher pick up seems like one of those plays you do because you can cause you’re so far ahead as a spectre. Looks like you had fun running them over with your spectre.
even though you got a low networth bc of few lhs, you still managed to get some itens and had a nice impact in the game, wp