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Noé

    How to stack the camp near mid radiant without losing any lane CS?

    If you clear the creeps that spawn at 0 mark, you'll lose at least one creep. Clearing the creeps that spawn at the 30s mark, you won't make it in time to stack, cause they arrive in lane at 40 sec more or less.

    I'm trying to maximize my CS effectiveness as SF, so i'm creating a local lobby and benchmarking 10 minutes CS. (From lv 1, with normal starting gold)

    So far i can only get 90, but i bet you can get more if you stack correctly.

    FlipFlop

      Watch arteezy sf radiant he is brilliant, i do believe the most effixient is clear the creeps and stack afer that (most pro used that that way too)

      Noé

        Do you have a specific game in mind?

        Noé

          Ty, will watch it.
          I guess, it doesn't really matter if you miss like 1 or 2 lane CS by going to stack, because you get the gold back, and it's safer farm.
          edit: "You don't have access to this tournament." :( QQ

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            NoAegisNoCheese Kappa

            Wink

              Flash farm creepwave at mid at around x:40 and walk to the LARGE camp to stack it, then walk back mid. repeat until you cant stack anymore

              Trodlabundin

                ah, noob

                sano

                  wink what you said makes no sense since a new creepwave will arrive at x:45
                  you can't clear wave and stack large camp, that's why you clear it around 47 and go stack medium camp at 54-55

                  Totentanz to The King: M ...

                    Have your supports stack them for you.

                    sano

                      ok sam now you're being unrealistic

                      Soultrap

                        Last time I stacked, my teammate Anti-Mage told me: "I can't farm! Jakiro stacked all camps and I can't kill so many creeps!"

                        Which leads me to conclusion...

                        Stacking? Probably not worth it. =)

                        Trodlabundin

                          Anti-Mage can't really clear stacks without items though?

                          We're talking about SF here, not Anti-Mage.

                          sleave

                            depending on your bracket its easier for you to man 1v5 playing a wisp than your supports (first of all there will be no supports but just in case there is) stack or pull

                            sleave

                              btw do you really need ticket to watch a tournament replay? LOL

                              Noé

                                it's fucking impossible without losing a lane creep, and when you don't lose a lane creep, it's pure luck because the creeps didn't all attack the same target or something like that. If you clear the wave that spawns at 0s, your creep will die under tower, however the ones that spawn at 30s will still meet somewhere in the river and one will die. If you clear the wave that spawns at 30s, they will meet at about 47-50s, which makes it impossible for you to walk and stack.

                                So, i assume that you stack when you think lane isn't safe.

                                edit: Brainstorming here.
                                What do you guys think about Io/SF dual lane mid?

                                It ensures SF's farm, it helps out as health/mana regen, all runes can be contested, hard camp/medium camp can be stacked without losing lane creeps, the exp loss will be mitigated by a hand of midas and a run through the jungle. Their mid will suffer, which will probably make a support try and help out mid, which creates space for other lanes. When you hit six, SF is a great duo partner with wisp because of high nuke damage.

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                                Wink

                                  @fourier
                                  hard deny so creeps end up under your tower, makes the timings really wonky for creep clearing and they end up lasting until x:50, so by x:45 you would have a stacked creepwave, which you can leave until after stacking large camp (sacrifice 1 or 2 creeps to the tower), but it pays off because large camp pays more than medium camp (plus you wont ever get golems)

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