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ness

    For the spark wraith trick

    I just outleveled a venomancer 13 to 6 in the midlane, perfectly balanced I'm sure.

    cartel

      Thanks cookie
      for teaching me how to lane vs trilanes and forcing supports to draw aggro...gained 500 mmr only with that trick

      [RR53] RR

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        for teaching me to snatch the 00:00 bounty by waiting in meld

        Shou

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          For teaching me nothing in particular, I gained 1.4k mmr.

          ywn

            whats the trick?

            cartel

              7k god asks for tips from 5k bosnian pride smh

              Hatsune Miku

                u jungle with spark wraith

                meteor hammer

                  u put 10 spark wraiths on 1 spot and dare them to tp on it

                  cartel

                    You idiot noobs.. its very ez trick....you make 2k smurf andkeep killing enemy mid 10 times with sparkwraiths...now you're 7 lvls ahead ez. .

                    meteor hammer

                      tell me pls im laning against someone with 600 average gpm T_T

                      meteor hammer

                        nvm he sucks dick

                        am i cuki yet??

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                        Jacked

                          What's the trick? Cuki is full of tricks

                          meteor hammer

                            i want to know too

                            cuki pls bless us with ur knowledge

                            .
                            ok im taking one for the team and watching the replay

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                            meteor hammer

                              ok im not very impressed hes just talking about 2 hit + wraith on range creep into flux i think , because the aws doing nothing else exceptional besides missing 7 cs in an empty lane while his supports play grab ass with the veno

                              this venos a fucking 4k and has no clue how aw works either. smh

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                              meteor hammer

                                pictured above: real footage of a moron moments before death

                                fx

                                  I am officially the worst aw in this forum
                                  Cant even win a free game
                                  https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3378587487

                                  Shou

                                    No fx
                                    I am the worst

                                    meteor hammer

                                      ive thrown a lot of aw games

                                      ursa can be super annoying if ur out of position

                                      just focus on getting rosh then sieging with bubble, and u should have a decent time securing wins. Make sure ur main is safe because everyone wants you to die in a dumpster fire

                                      im still disappointed about that ta. 600 avg gpm mid spammer and she basically fed 3 times when the lane wasnt 3v1 and then gave up

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                                      Shou

                                        I think I cud win every game with necro
                                        I still have a 100% Winrate with him
                                        Feels so strong against people who don't know when to stop chasing, they just overextend like crazy

                                        Any Q'ers?

                                          honestly, like its mindblowing what happens in all the below 5k mmr games, mmr is definitely hugely inflated

                                          Potato Marshal

                                            I don't know if people are getting destroyed this badly by AW in lane is because they don't understand his abilities.

                                            meteor hammer

                                              I don't know if people are getting destroyed this badly by AW in lane is because they don't understand his abilities.

                                              4ks dont know tp escape as a general rule

                                              u just kill the range creep and hit their mid until he backs, then ult and double flux and its a free kill unless a support is riding his dick. once you have midas u can ult and instakill the creeps near him with midas and then hes completely hosed, if he doesnt tp out u can right click him to death anyway.

                                              most mids get shit on by aw anyway tbh, besides like lvl1 where his subpar base damage makes playing against puck types annyonig

                                              if you get ganked u spawn ult and walk ur main back, then the support almost certainly dies to ur double like a complete tard, sometimes you can get a double/triple doing this shit because of spark wraiths and double flux

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                                              meteor hammer

                                                usually when i lose on this hero its because im l;ike 7/1 and then i feed 4 fights in a row somehow even though its not hard to stay safe

                                                btw idk maybe it only works because of the low elo im playing in but im pretty sure blinks amazing and blademail is good against a lot of heroes (tinker sniper jakiro luna if ur team doesnt force a fast bkb from her)

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                                                Jacked

                                                  Low Elo lul feels bad for 99% of players here

                                                  PROTECTMEFROMWHATIWANT

                                                    C-GOD

                                                    boop

                                                      thats a 4k veno + u have sb on ur team
                                                      i don't think it's very surprising u can win the lane

                                                      evy

                                                        Jdf have 1:1 mmr:match ratio
                                                        I'm better than jdf :thinking:

                                                        meteor hammer

                                                          what do u mean?

                                                          :thinking:

                                                          fx

                                                            U suck jd

                                                            meteor hammer

                                                              i know dude

                                                              this game make me want to kill myself

                                                              https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3381231725

                                                              evy

                                                                You should've stayed out of the game forever

                                                                meteor hammer

                                                                  clearly

                                                                  kormoranas

                                                                    regards gecko

                                                                    meteor hammer

                                                                      this hero is actually quite good rn, hes been nerfed every patch for so long i forgot he could be fun

                                                                      BSJ. LGD

                                                                        Thanks Cuki SeemsGood

                                                                        🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                          it's some basic stuff, but it's basically just this:

                                                                          if you do an aggro onto your range creep, then you can deny your range creep

                                                                          doing this over and over again will give you a huge exp advantage, just from that 1 creep, after 10 waves(5 minutes) you'll have basically 1 level above your enemy if you only did this. add in more denies and you basically super out level

                                                                          and every mid laner can do this, BUT what the loveley part about arc is, you can create this scenario:

                                                                          https://prnt.sc/g949ic

                                                                          after pulling and denying, you kill the enemy range creep, so if the enemy wanted some LH he'd have to eat ass from the wraiths

                                                                          If the enemy does a counter pull then there's no range creep to save him and he'll be under 4 melee creeps, so a flux and more sparks would kill most heroes.

                                                                          Doing this 1-2 waves doesn't make much of a difference as a range creep deny will only deny the enemy 27 exp and give you 27 exp

                                                                          but if you think about it that's a 54 exp difference, and after 5 minutes(10 waves) that' literally a whole level difference, add in other denies and then you basiclly create this huge exp advantage in which you get lvl 6 before your opponent and that means you get to kill him with that lvl 6 over and over again, as the enemy dies before even reaching the wave.

                                                                          p.s you're welcome

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                                                                          Anomaluna

                                                                            He replied! PogChamp

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                                                                              P.s. only works vs trash

                                                                              ness

                                                                                its something so incredibly easy and dumb that I really should have thought of before, but that just hadnt crossed my mind, naturally it doesnt work against every hero (bloodseeker and TA dont care, but you can kill them easily at 6 either way) but it certainly made mid easier than just trying to out-cs the opponent

                                                                                Kotato

                                                                                  any ideas which heros counter AW?

                                                                                  meteor hammer

                                                                                    pl

                                                                                    meteor hammer

                                                                                      anyone with high physical damage that builds 2 of: bkb, blink, diffusal

                                                                                      meteor hammer

                                                                                        srsly though ty cookie i knew some of this stuff but i wasnt abusing it consciously

                                                                                        > well played

                                                                                        Kotato

                                                                                          so u think i can stand PA versus Arc Warden mid lane?

                                                                                          meteor hammer

                                                                                            yes or no it all depends on the player

                                                                                            this hero is just a retard killer like no other, nearly every game people are spamming gg report mid because theyve died 4 times in 7 minutes

                                                                                            StanceWorks

                                                                                              Windranger rape this pos AW.

                                                                                              meteor hammer

                                                                                                lol no she doesnt

                                                                                                ur just playing against garbage aws with trahs positioning and 0 farm

                                                                                                wr is a shit hero nd shit against aw

                                                                                                if u said ld mid or pl hc u would have some credibility, wr is dogshit

                                                                                                meteor hammer

                                                                                                  i cant even fathom how u think wr is good against aw. even if you land a shackle on the main (error # 1), he can shield the main with bubble for the entire shackle duration. so you have to shackle the main TO the clone (rofl) if you want to do jack fucking shit

                                                                                                  hey you shackled anyone besides AW? great, you can't do any fucking damage to them

                                                                                                  You wanna run away? great, 100ms and 120 damage per second, enjoy dying on your trashcan hero

                                                                                                  don't think ur experiences against 3200 garbage piles entitles you to an authoritative opinion

                                                                                                  StanceWorks

                                                                                                    You kill him with 2 PowerShots not auto attacks...wtf kind of 2k scrub are you ?
                                                                                                    Get rain drop, and max W. Hit him 2 times he is dead. Your E escapes/dodges his
                                                                                                    Wraith without having to tp to base. Seriously bro... you bad.
                                                                                                    Go play PA mid spam Q for good feelings bro...

                                                                                                    StanceWorks

                                                                                                      Keep playing AW vs trashcans and think your good though. Laughable scrub.

                                                                                                      meteor hammer

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