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Very late Midas on Slardawg in General Discussion
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    In some situations, I prefer to go very late Midas on Slardar (between 20-30 minutes in game), after my Blink and Tranquils, but idk if that's mentally retarded and would get punished in 5k+.

    So... Is it a bad habit or an OK one?

    I just feel like I will need a few more greedy items like BKB/Silver Edge/AC and that the game will most probably go late anyway.

    Jacked

      Carry slardar?

      Kotato

        midas pazs out in 10 minutes on average, but again it is purchased for XP and not money... so the habit is retarded. Also does not synergize with slardar as an active hero (he wins fights and needs other items for that)

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          In some games I don't need anything, but Blink and there's an inevitable phase with lots of farm.

          After fixes getting Midas for exp is meh.

          Potato Marshal

            Please don't go late midas on anybody, unless maybe you're a hero that struggles with farming and leveling but have amazing talents, which Slardar doesn't, and even then it would be extremely situational.

            RIP

              if its so bad, why pros used to do it?

              Riguma Borusu

                if its so bad, why pros used to do it?

                Offlaners who don't end up farming and supports who don't end up farming (usually those who can't clear camps easily, like slardar and bara) used to get late midas in order not to take the space off the map and to be able to fulfill their duties without farming, especially if they are bad at it - and ever since creeps started spawning every 2 minutes, it became crucial for some heroes.

                However, ever since creeps have started spawning every minute again and midas got nerfed and even more expensive, as well as some low cost items getting introduced into the game/getting cheaper and more effective, a late midas is amazingly bad. The only situation in which you get a late midas right now is if you are locked in your base, and there is no chance to farm or win fights at the moment.

                All this being said, there is ALWAYS more space to farm in random pubs than there is in competitive play, so it's better to hit a few camps once in a while or split push a bit instead of getting a 2k gold deadweight item.

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                Shou

                  It used to be a thing but not anymore
                  Now u go force staff or sb after blink

                  Riguma Borusu

                    Medallion into crest is also good, just don't go midas.

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                    Anomaluna

                      I might be wrong but Midas is more of a gold item now than an XP item. Just sharing what I learned from various pros talking on streams and guides by the likes of Dots D. Bowie.

                      Also, Slardar really needs a force staff to disengage after blinking in and stunning. You need the same gold to buy Midas, but the difference in team fights is monumental.

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                        I am not that retarded.

                        There are games, where I clearly don't need a force to disengage and fullfil the role perfectly with bare blink.

                        They don't have any CC in teamfight or barely any = useless force staff. It doesn't always make 'monumental' difference.

                        I don't build late Midas in every game, but in those, where "Hmm... I'll need at least BKB and Silver Edge to win that and the enemy team can't push anytime soon".

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